Easy way to determine if ex rental car?

Easy way to determine if ex rental car?

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Sir Bagalot

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6,617 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd June
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Looking at a 1-2 year old car.

Is there an easy way to determine if it's ex rental?

A few years back you could just ask to see the V5 and that pretty much revealed who the owner was (and yes I know that Hertz etc have holding company names to register the car under)

jdoubleu

324 posts

55 months

Monday 3rd June
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What sort of car is it? Is there a reason you suspect it might be?

For what it's worth, I doubt it will impact the reliability of the car and (as you are finding) no one will know when you come to sell so shouldn't impact future value. I'd just be going on condition and service history.

The Rotrex Kid

31,603 posts

167 months

Monday 3rd June
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Sir Bagalot said:
Looking at a 1-2 year old car.

Is there an easy way to determine if it's ex rental?

A few years back you could just ask to see the V5 and that pretty much revealed who the owner was (and yes I know that Hertz etc have holding company names to register the car under)
You can still ask to see the V5 and it will still show the previous owner. The dealer will have the full V5. If they don’t want to show it to you….. well…..

edc

9,306 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd June
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Looking at a 1-2 year old car.

Is there an easy way to determine if it's ex rental?

A few years back you could just ask to see the V5 and that pretty much revealed who the owner was (and yes I know that Hertz etc have holding company names to register the car under)
You can still ask to see the V5 and it will still show the previous owner. The dealer will have the full V5. If they don’t want to show it to you….. well…..
This for me is the other compelling reason to see the car rather than buy online so you can really piece together the paperwork, history and story. Or convince yourself not to buy it ...

jonwm

2,567 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd June
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If it's a Peugeot product and you DM me the reg I can see if it's been one. Not 100% but 99%.

vikingaero

11,184 posts

176 months

Tuesday 4th June
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See if they've left on the barcode stickers on front windscreen/rear window or fuel filler cap.

Otherwise it's getting harder to tell. Any left over paperwork? Check spare wheel well. Yellow keytag? Lack of carpet mats? Hazed paintwork as they love to use rotary carwashes.

Louis Balfour

27,645 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Sir Bagalot said:
Looking at a 1-2 year old car.

Is there an easy way to determine if it's ex rental?
Test drive it and see whether there is nothing quite as fast.

autumnsum

435 posts

38 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Easy way I was taught by someone at the car auctions to identify ex-taxi or ex-rental is to look for scratch marks in the boot - loads of luggage being loaded/unloaded on a regular basis.

It's true too. Look in the back of the next Uber you use if you're loading something.

66HFM

491 posts

32 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Also check the service history, as previously, not sure if the same now, but the hire companies didn't use the main dealers for servicing they used to use local garages

Truckosaurus

12,034 posts

291 months

Tuesday 4th June
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66HFM said:
Also check the service history, as previously, not sure if the same now, but the hire companies didn't use the main dealers for servicing they used to use local garages
That was certainly the case for my colleagues who get medium term rentals instead of company cars - they book the servicing via some online portal and the lowest bidder comes and collects the car from the office car park and returns it later in the day - usually seems to be one man band type businesses.

Jag_NE

3,099 posts

107 months

Tuesday 4th June
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I don’t see it as an issue personally as if it’s a c.1 year old car it will have likely experienced the full range of driver types from miss daisy to lunatic and everything in between. As long as the condition is as you’d expect on a 1 year old car I’d be happy. Older cars with multiple owners, it’s a non issue.

Ballistic

955 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th June
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66HFM said:
Also check the service history, as previously, not sure if the same now, but the hire companies didn't use the main dealers for servicing they used to use local garages
I thought the rental companies policy was to dispose of the car before it was due its first service.
I've hired plenty of cars with the service light on or a sticker on saying do not exceed x number of miles.

Auto810graphy

1,522 posts

99 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Ballistic said:
I thought the rental companies policy was to dispose of the car before it was due its first service.
I've hired plenty of cars with the service light on or a sticker on saying do not exceed x number of miles.
Most were run like this as they basically purchase cars and sell them as quick as possible, sometimes for more than they paid but Covid supply stopped this model with some fleets running cars up to 70,000 miles. Over the next 12 months things should get back to normal with most companies.

ZX10R NIN

28,351 posts

132 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Louis Balfour said:
Test drive it and see whether there is nothing quite as fast.
biglaugh

ACCYSTAN

1,027 posts

128 months

Wednesday 5th June
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As is often the case condition is king

The boot scuffs suggestion is a good idea

I drive rental cars every couple of weeks and I’m still surprised at the amount 3 years old and 40k plus on the dash

The rental branch I use at the airport have just started to move on a lot of the cars that are ageing and have had a huge delivery of MG SUVs both the HS and ZS.
Assuming MG must do a decent volume deal to the hire companies for such a large quantity, must be 60% of the available cars are MG

I recall a friend who was a senior buyer for a hire company pre Stellantis owning Vauxhall (2015?).
He told me they got a huge volume deal from Vauxhall on the Astra, effectively the cost of each Astra was under £6k! I always found that hard to believe but he was adamant it was the case.

jfdi

1,137 posts

182 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Buy something that isn't base spec, very unusual for rental companies to have models higher up the spec range.

vikingaero

11,184 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th June
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ACCYSTAN said:
As is often the case condition is king

The boot scuffs suggestion is a good idea

I drive rental cars every couple of weeks and I’m still surprised at the amount 3 years old and 40k plus on the dash

The rental branch I use at the airport have just started to move on a lot of the cars that are ageing and have had a huge delivery of MG SUVs both the HS and ZS.
Assuming MG must do a decent volume deal to the hire companies for such a large quantity, must be 60% of the available cars are MG

I recall a friend who was a senior buyer for a hire company pre Stellantis owning Vauxhall (2015?).
He told me they got a huge volume deal from Vauxhall on the Astra, effectively the cost of each Astra was under £6k! I always found that hard to believe but he was adamant it was the case.
I agree. I got a 21 plate Citroen C5 SUV thing a fortnight ago. Nothing wrong with it. But my perception is that supply is still icky at times for rental fleets.

Auto810graphy

1,522 posts

99 months

Wednesday 5th June
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jfdi said:
Buy something that isn't base spec, very unusual for rental companies to have models higher up the spec range.
Complete opposite on anything over basic 1.2 rental grade as they buy to sell. Most ex rental BMW or Audi will have metallic, privacy, upgrade tech pack etc.

Auto810graphy

1,522 posts

99 months

Wednesday 5th June
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ACCYSTAN said:
I recall a friend who was a senior buyer for a hire company pre Stellantis owning Vauxhall (2015?).
He told me they got a huge volume deal from Vauxhall on the Astra, effectively the cost of each Astra was under £6k! I always found that hard to believe but he was adamant it was the case.
Probably right pre VAT as rental cars are purchased as VAT qualifying cars. I recall in 2008 an Astra SXI 1.6 was about £16k list and there was a rental company parking them and selling them at 90 days old with no miles for £8500 and they were making money.

Looking down some of the leasing pricing supplied to us discounts are coming onboard again. Some mainstream ICE cars are already at 25% with a few EV’s hitting 45%.

ACCYSTAN

1,027 posts

128 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I spoke to him today, they where buying a large batch of Astra for just of £5.5k each

How times have changed within less than 10 years