Peugeot 106 Xsi - experiences and thoughts
Discussion
Talking to one of my friends today, he is mad on my Alpina and really wants to buy it. I have said no to offers of cash before, but he wishes to sweeten the deal by throwing in his little one-oh, or an S type R.
I am interested in this deal as when I was younger I did quite want the Xsi.
Bearing in mind my daily car is a modified Clio 200, not dissimilar to the one in the recent PH article, but with more power, and the 106 would be a weekend car, would it be worth doing?
It's a great deal. But still unsure if it.
Would like to hear other's thoughts before going into this deal in more depth.
Thanks.
I am interested in this deal as when I was younger I did quite want the Xsi.
Bearing in mind my daily car is a modified Clio 200, not dissimilar to the one in the recent PH article, but with more power, and the 106 would be a weekend car, would it be worth doing?
It's a great deal. But still unsure if it.
Would like to hear other's thoughts before going into this deal in more depth.
Thanks.
I used to race a 106 xsi in saloon car racing.
Never driven one on the road.
Great handling little car only takes very minor tweaks to make it exactly the same as a 106 S2 rallye. Saxo VTR the same car only with rear disk brakes.
These cars are great fun at relatively low speeds and will still give more performance cars a good run for the their money down any twisty B road.
Values of 106 xs and xsi have gone up loads in the past few years as super rare and becoming desirable to fans of Peugeot and hot hatches ….
Never driven one on the road.
Great handling little car only takes very minor tweaks to make it exactly the same as a 106 S2 rallye. Saxo VTR the same car only with rear disk brakes.
These cars are great fun at relatively low speeds and will still give more performance cars a good run for the their money down any twisty B road.
Values of 106 xs and xsi have gone up loads in the past few years as super rare and becoming desirable to fans of Peugeot and hot hatches ….
I was watching one of the Collecting Cars podcasts and they were talking about disappointing cars. Someone on it (could well have been Chris Harris) gave the example of the 106 Rallye, which they adored, being replaced by a 106 XSi, which they said was really quite bad (felt flat and unexciting) by comparison.
Not sure if that helps much..?
Not sure if that helps much..?
SweptVolume said:
I was watching one of the Collecting Cars podcasts and they were talking about disappointing cars. Someone on it (could well have been Chris Harris) gave the example of the 106 Rallye, which they adored, being replaced by a 106 XSi, which they said was really quite bad (felt flat and unexciting) by comparison.
Not sure if that helps much..?
Think it replaced a 205 XSNot sure if that helps much..?
Leins said:
Think it replaced a 205 XS
The 205 XS was a very rare and special car same engine as Ax gt with handling better than 205 Gti.106 xsi was faster but not as fun to drive ( I’ve had 205 Gti 1.6/1.9 and XS carb Model plus 106 xsi Gti / Saxo VTR/Vts.
I’d guess 106 xsi values will go up a lot but still be 30% less than 106 rallye ( even though basically the same).
rallycross said:
The 205 XS was a very rare and special car same engine as Ax gt with handling better than 205 Gti.
106 xsi was faster but not as fun to drive ( I’ve had 205 Gti 1.6/1.9 and XS carb Model plus 106 xsi Gti / Saxo VTR/Vts.
I’d guess 106 xsi values will go up a lot but still be 30% less than 106 rallye ( even though basically the same).
Sorry but your absolutely drunk if you think the 205 xs handled better than a gti106 xsi was faster but not as fun to drive ( I’ve had 205 Gti 1.6/1.9 and XS carb Model plus 106 xsi Gti / Saxo VTR/Vts.
I’d guess 106 xsi values will go up a lot but still be 30% less than 106 rallye ( even though basically the same).
rallycross said:
blue_haddock said:
Sorry but your absolutely drunk if you think the 205 xs handled better than a gti
I’ve had loads of 205 Gti 1.6 and 1.9 and the XS I had was somehow more fun really light alloy block and short gearing made them a hoot to drive ( for a 1.4). I've had many 205's of different flavours over the years and was for a long while the club secretary for the Peugeot Sport Club.
The XS suspension was a different set up to a GTI and they had lower spec bottom arm and a much thinner ARB so a GTI would always run rings round an XS
The 205 GTI engine was also alloy so marginal weight difference between a TU and XU series engine.
blue_haddock said:
You still dont know what you're talking about.
I've had many 205's of different flavours over the years and was for a long while the club secretary for the Peugeot Sport Club.
The XS suspension was a different set up to a GTI and they had lower spec bottom arm and a much thinner ARB so a GTI would always run rings round an XS
The 205 GTI engine was also alloy so marginal weight difference between a TU and XU series engine.
Fine whatever you say I’ve raced and rallycross’d several 205 Gti and I was really impressed by that 205 rallye ( only drove it on the road ).I've had many 205's of different flavours over the years and was for a long while the club secretary for the Peugeot Sport Club.
The XS suspension was a different set up to a GTI and they had lower spec bottom arm and a much thinner ARB so a GTI would always run rings round an XS
The 205 GTI engine was also alloy so marginal weight difference between a TU and XU series engine.
Anyone who’s owned and diy maintained this vintage of PSA stuff will know it’s all the same family of bits.
Broadly they’ll all ‘feel’ samey and fundamentally they’re all excellent fun drives if you fit the ‘best’ bits which is not going to be a big stress these days.
Even 20-25 years ago swapping bits from top models onto more cooking models was easy and viable so no probs today.
Indeed given my experience in a 306 Rallye vs a GTi6 for instance, the GTi6 is far preferable in every case… leather steering wheel alone being much nicer than the rubber s
t in a Rallye.
Broadly they’ll all ‘feel’ samey and fundamentally they’re all excellent fun drives if you fit the ‘best’ bits which is not going to be a big stress these days.
Even 20-25 years ago swapping bits from top models onto more cooking models was easy and viable so no probs today.
Indeed given my experience in a 306 Rallye vs a GTi6 for instance, the GTi6 is far preferable in every case… leather steering wheel alone being much nicer than the rubber s
t in a Rallye.My first car was a 1.4 106 Xsi, it was fantastic.
Putting out around 100bhp from an 8v 1.4 was fairly impressive, the 1.4 quicksilver with 75bhp was noticeably slower.
The Xsi was grunty, revved well and was a brilliant handler. Looked great too, the 106 gen 1 was a very classic looking thing, more akin to a Citroen Visa than the facelifted 106 model. They later fitted a catalytic converter which supposedly dulled the power somewhat, so soon after replaced the 1.4 engine at some with a 1.6 which also had a catalytic converter fitted, to get to the level of the pre cat 1.4. I believe that 1.6 engine was also used in the Saxo VTR.
I've had loads of Peugeots since, amongst them three 306 Gti6, two 306 Rallye and also a 106 Gti. The Xsi fits in well with them. If I had the opportunity to get another, I would, just don't expect a brilliant finish. The interior will be falling apart, the exterior trim will start coming off and the electrics may well be iffy.
It'll only feel slow if you're used to big power. 100bhp is more than enough in a 900kg 106, its the kind of stuff journalists rave about these days.
Putting out around 100bhp from an 8v 1.4 was fairly impressive, the 1.4 quicksilver with 75bhp was noticeably slower.
The Xsi was grunty, revved well and was a brilliant handler. Looked great too, the 106 gen 1 was a very classic looking thing, more akin to a Citroen Visa than the facelifted 106 model. They later fitted a catalytic converter which supposedly dulled the power somewhat, so soon after replaced the 1.4 engine at some with a 1.6 which also had a catalytic converter fitted, to get to the level of the pre cat 1.4. I believe that 1.6 engine was also used in the Saxo VTR.
I've had loads of Peugeots since, amongst them three 306 Gti6, two 306 Rallye and also a 106 Gti. The Xsi fits in well with them. If I had the opportunity to get another, I would, just don't expect a brilliant finish. The interior will be falling apart, the exterior trim will start coming off and the electrics may well be iffy.
It'll only feel slow if you're used to big power. 100bhp is more than enough in a 900kg 106, its the kind of stuff journalists rave about these days.
Edited by Pebbles167 on Monday 12th February 19:28
Leins said:
SweptVolume said:
I was watching one of the Collecting Cars podcasts and they were talking about disappointing cars. Someone on it (could well have been Chris Harris) gave the example of the 106 Rallye, which they adored, being replaced by a 106 XSi, which they said was really quite bad (felt flat and unexciting) by comparison.
Not sure if that helps much..?
Think it replaced a 205 XSNot sure if that helps much..?
rallycross said:
Fine whatever you say I’ve raced and rallycross’d several 205 Gti and I was really impressed by that 205 rallye ( only drove it on the road ).
Unless it was a euro spec 1.3 twin carb rallye then the uk spec rallye was actually worse than an XS as they only had 75bhp.Shows how little you know......
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