Most reliable?
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Looking for some advice?
The last 3 years I've been driving a Mazda 2 but it's not going to be cost effective to fix after an MOT failure. I had been thinking about changing a few months back and was looking at the Skoda Yeti. However they seem to hold their value well. Ideally I'm looking to spend 7k max. I also wouldn't rule out the option of a brand new car and spending more. Over the last week I started to look at the Up/Citigo/Aygo. I realised for the same money I could get a Panda or Sandero Stepway. I wouldn't mind a Panda 4x4 either.
I mainly work from home but that could change so if it did it would be 150 miles extra per week. The car mostly sits at the door other than short local trips but I normally do about a one off 800 mile trip once per month. 12,000 miles per year max.
I'm not bothered about comfort driving. Ideally just looking for something cheap to run but reliable. Quirky would be a bonus.
The last 3 years I've been driving a Mazda 2 but it's not going to be cost effective to fix after an MOT failure. I had been thinking about changing a few months back and was looking at the Skoda Yeti. However they seem to hold their value well. Ideally I'm looking to spend 7k max. I also wouldn't rule out the option of a brand new car and spending more. Over the last week I started to look at the Up/Citigo/Aygo. I realised for the same money I could get a Panda or Sandero Stepway. I wouldn't mind a Panda 4x4 either.
I mainly work from home but that could change so if it did it would be 150 miles extra per week. The car mostly sits at the door other than short local trips but I normally do about a one off 800 mile trip once per month. 12,000 miles per year max.
I'm not bothered about comfort driving. Ideally just looking for something cheap to run but reliable. Quirky would be a bonus.
As long as you maintain it with regular servicing etc, anything can be reliable - better to focus on pointers of what you want a car to be other than reliable -size, petrol or diesel, manual or auto, and budget. Look hard enough and you'll find comments on every single car ever on either side of the fence.
Panda 4x4 is a lovely little thing. Multijet the better choice over the TA. We love ours and prefer it to the XC70 unless we're doing a holiday-type journey. Fiat Forum has loads of buying advice, but legislate for dmf and clutch by about 100k at significant cost (not far short of a grand, more if all your bolts are fused (ask me how I know!). The rest is pretty cheap.
This will give you an idea of the relative reliability of the cars you're considering.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-mo...
https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-mo...
Bonefish Blues said:
Panda 4x4 is a lovely little thing. Multijet the better choice over the TA. We love ours and prefer it to the XC70 unless we're doing a holiday-type journey. Fiat Forum has loads of buying advice, but legislate for dmf and clutch by about 100k at significant cost (not far short of a grand, more if all your bolts are fused (ask me how I know!). The rest is pretty cheap.
Don’t forget the exhaust, the front flexi fails and they don’t like going back together when you remove the gearbox.stevemcs said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Panda 4x4 is a lovely little thing. Multijet the better choice over the TA. We love ours and prefer it to the XC70 unless we're doing a holiday-type journey. Fiat Forum has loads of buying advice, but legislate for dmf and clutch by about 100k at significant cost (not far short of a grand, more if all your bolts are fused (ask me how I know!). The rest is pretty cheap.
Don’t forget the exhaust, the front flexi fails and they don’t like going back together when you remove the gearbox.Bonefish Blues said:
Panda 4x4 is a lovely little thing. Multijet the better choice over the TA. We love ours and prefer it to the XC70 unless we're doing a holiday-type journey. Fiat Forum has loads of buying advice, but legislate for dmf and clutch by about 100k at significant cost (not far short of a grand, more if all your bolts are fused (ask me how I know!). The rest is pretty cheap.
Does the dmf effect all models? I had seen a few reasonably priced standard non 4x4 1.2 Pandas?9Pirate9 said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Panda 4x4 is a lovely little thing. Multijet the better choice over the TA. We love ours and prefer it to the XC70 unless we're doing a holiday-type journey. Fiat Forum has loads of buying advice, but legislate for dmf and clutch by about 100k at significant cost (not far short of a grand, more if all your bolts are fused (ask me how I know!). The rest is pretty cheap.
Does the dmf effect all models? I had seen a few reasonably priced standard non 4x4 1.2 Pandas?We have a 10 year old Škoda Fabia, lovely 1.2TSi 4 pot, 5 speed manual. Utterly practical, roomy and very reliable. I drove a Honda Jazz petrol Hybrid (1.5 I MMD). I was quite impressed, an interesting concept.
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/world-of-honda/presen...
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/world-of-honda/presen...
OP specifically asks about reliability.
Answer.
Suzuki Toyota Toyota Toyota Toyota. Honda.
Least reliable.
Audi Seat etc etc etc.
Same as it always was, and will be for a while.
As a mechanic that runs a fleet of 100 odd cars, I would avoid the Germans (inc Skoda) like an infected puss filled boil, and simply always buy the Toyota.
Toyota have been building solid, reliable, bomb proof cars for decades, and very little can touch them.
Meanwhile, the Germans in particular seem to be trying their best to shoot themselves in the foot, as often and as painfully as possible.
And people will pop up just now saying 'I ran a Mk17 Golf for 3 gazillion miles, and I didn't even put fuel in it' But it's worth remembering this is not statistically valid (even if it is true). JD power survey etc etc, goes some way towards that, and Toyota is always top 5.
My experience - the 35 odd Toyotas we have, are bomb proof reliable, and very solid, on everything, except possibly rust (but most are getting on for 20 years old).
Answer.
Suzuki Toyota Toyota Toyota Toyota. Honda.
Least reliable.
Audi Seat etc etc etc.
Same as it always was, and will be for a while.
As a mechanic that runs a fleet of 100 odd cars, I would avoid the Germans (inc Skoda) like an infected puss filled boil, and simply always buy the Toyota.
Toyota have been building solid, reliable, bomb proof cars for decades, and very little can touch them.
Meanwhile, the Germans in particular seem to be trying their best to shoot themselves in the foot, as often and as painfully as possible.
And people will pop up just now saying 'I ran a Mk17 Golf for 3 gazillion miles, and I didn't even put fuel in it' But it's worth remembering this is not statistically valid (even if it is true). JD power survey etc etc, goes some way towards that, and Toyota is always top 5.
My experience - the 35 odd Toyotas we have, are bomb proof reliable, and very solid, on everything, except possibly rust (but most are getting on for 20 years old).
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