Receiving payment for car; Paypal or bank transfer?

Receiving payment for car; Paypal or bank transfer?

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Sub8

Original Poster:

61 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Hi all.

My E500 found a home, well potential home, via the usual bidding site. Winning bidder has suggested PayPal or bank transfer and car will be collected by courier.

Best way to not be scammed?

Thanks.

randlemarcus

13,598 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Bank transfer over Paypal, for sure.

Is the need for a courier legitimate? i.e. he lives in Scotland, the car's in Cornwall, or its a 250GTO, and he's sending a covered transporter. Sending a courier for a scrappy Micra when he lives one town over is a huge red flag, but there might be a reason

johnsmith222

1,031 posts

89 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Be careful. The courier situation sounds dodgy. Even if they're genuine id rather choose a buyer that is viewing the car themselves.

StefanYHU

26 posts

15 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Go bank transfer, then contact your bank and ask is there anyway this could be returned without your authorisation etc, explain it’s a car sale.

These days I wouldn’t even accept a deposit by PayPal, they side with the buyer every time.

vikingaero

11,197 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Most definitely not PayPal, no matter how much the buyer pleads. Some people do build up large PayPal balances for whatever reason, but there is no reason why they cannot withdraw the funds to their bank account and make a bank transfer.

PayPal accounts are popular for being hacked or funded with stolen card details. What happens is that PayPal reverse the transaction and you owe £x thousands and have no car.

Sub8

Original Poster:

61 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Thanks all. I thought there was a Paypal get-out for buyers Vs sellers.


DD3566

87 posts

81 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I seem to remember this being a fairly common eBay scam a few years back. "Buyer" would claim they are a sailor or working abroad etc, and would collect the car via courier. Once the PayPal payment is made, the "courier" (i.e a mate or even the scammer themselves) collect the car, then immediately claim the money back from PayPal and disappear. In the end you're left without the car or the money. Odds are the car would then be broken down for parts as soon as possible to prevent it being found

Russ_16v

140 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I would always choose bank transfer over PP.

I would clarify the logistics too, as it's been mentioned. It be completely innocent - examples being I had my Octavia collected as it was 2 hours away and was in limp mode.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

26 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Suggest you set up a 'burner bank account' with Revolut - download the app, two minutes later you have the account. All you need is the sort code and account number for the buyer.

Once the funds are in your burner account, transfer them to your other bank and delete the burner account.

Obviously doesn't have to be Revolut, but that is by far the easiest.

Shaoxter

4,212 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Paypal friends and family is effectively a bank transfer and has no buyer protection (and no fees either).
It's different to the paying for goods/services option which you would use on ebay etc.

It's useful for sending small amounts of money to friends for splitting bills etc. but I wouldn't use it for a car purchase. Just ask for a bank transfer.

Terminator X

16,300 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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johnsmith222 said:
Be careful. The courier situation sounds dodgy. Even if they're genuine id rather choose a buyer that is viewing the car themselves.
Eh? They offered £500 above list, unseen and will collect. Win win.

TX.

Fore Left

1,498 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Terminator X said:
Eh? They offered £500 above list, unseen and will collect. Win win.

TX.
It sounds scammier by the minute...

The Gauge

3,180 posts

20 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Always personally check and recheck the funds are in your account, don't rely on them sending you a screenshot claiming the funds have been transferred.

With Paypal, beware of the scam where you receive an official looking email from Paypal stating the funds are in a holding account and as soon as the goods have been delivered the money will be released to you. There is no holding account. There is no money. You now have no car.

Sub8

Original Poster:

61 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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So some obvious things to check, of course. I thought I had heard somewhere of even a bank transfer charge back or similar.

As for £500 over list comment, he only beat next lower bidder by £20 smile

Ref the courier - I could see it eitherway. Cheap car miles away, if its a trader, get it collected. Personnnaly I would never buy sight unseen and have often travelled the lenght of the UK to go look....

Thanks all.

Wacky Racer

38,973 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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This has scam written all over it.

Avoid at all costs.

If you must, bank transfer BEFORE you hand it over.

ridds

8,286 posts

251 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Run a mile.... laugh

not collecting in person, what "couriers" collect cars?

There are Trade Drivers but I don't know they freelance for individuals.... Unless it's a dealer?

All stinks to me though.

Cash on collection is bad enough. Sod dealing with all that palaver.

Edited by ridds on Wednesday 13th December 20:24

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

26 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Are any of actually reading this thread properly?

Nowhere has the OP said they offered over the asking price. That was a clear tongue in cheek comment from Terminator X referring to the well known Western Union money transfer, etc scam.

Terminator X

16,300 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Are any of actually reading this thread properly?

Nowhere has the OP said they offered over the asking price. That was a clear tongue in cheek comment from Terminator X referring to the well known Western Union money transfer, etc scam.
It was, apologies derailed the thread getmecoat

TX.

Sub8

Original Poster:

61 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I think, after many years of lurking here, around 30% of responders actually read the posts wink

Edited by Sub8 on Wednesday 13th December 18:55

AceRockatansky

2,410 posts

34 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Terminator X said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
Are any of actually reading this thread properly?

Nowhere has the OP said they offered over the asking price. That was a clear tongue in cheek comment from Terminator X referring to the well known Western Union money transfer, etc scam.
It was, apologies derailed the thread getmecoat

TX.
Some impressive trolling there, turned out better than expected! hehe