Merc SL

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nikaiyo2

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5,026 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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I have always had a bit of thing for this style of Merc, I know nothing at all about them, are they any good? Are they an absolute costly rot box nightmare?
Is there a good online SL resource ?

I would be using it daily and storing outside, is this just crazy talk ?

Also there seems to be a MASSIVE difference in price for cars that look similar, some seem to be £20k some £50K ???

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Tuesday 5th December 12:59

TwigtheWonderkid

44,654 posts

157 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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They are officially known as the R107. Unofficially as Dallas Mercs.

Patrick1964

715 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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SL Shop are a good resource of information. Start there ?

trevalvole

1,270 posts

40 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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nikaiyo2 said:


I would be using it daily and storing outside, is this just crazy talk ?

Also there seems to be a MASSIVE difference in price for cars that look similar, some seem to be £20k some £50K ???

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Tuesday 5th December 12:59
From what I've heard, I suspect a good part of the answer to both your questions is rust. Apparently there was a facelift in 1986 which changed various things and they were galvanised from then, so should resist rust better.

As you are probably aware they are a cruiser rather than a sports car and I expect you'll find that various things are engine-vacuum powered rather than using electricity. Merc will probably still supply some parts, but they will be ££££££££££££.

Also, have a watch of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIuHE27eCPU

Mr Tidy

24,285 posts

134 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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I wouldn't want to run any car that age as a daily and keep it outdoors!

I like having a daily I know will always work, get me where I'm going and get me back with no issues. But maybe my previous experience with older Mercedes (as in up to 10 years old when I had them) has coloured my view.

biggbn

24,930 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Mr Tidy said:
I wouldn't want to run any car that age as a daily and keep it outdoors!

I like having a daily I know will always work, get me where I'm going and get me back with no issues. But maybe my previous experience with older Mercedes (as in up to 10 years old when I had them) has coloured my view.
I've ran cars from the 60s as daily drivers in all conditions. Volvos and Saabs in particular had furnace like heaters and even old Beetles with solid floorpans had toastie winter heat. A good one lf these mercs preventatively maintained will be a brilliant daily in my opinion. Hardtop option bolted on winter time!

PositronicRay

27,516 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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biggbn said:
Mr Tidy said:
I wouldn't want to run any car that age as a daily and keep it outdoors!

I like having a daily I know will always work, get me where I'm going and get me back with no issues. But maybe my previous experience with older Mercedes (as in up to 10 years old when I had them) has coloured my view.
I've ran cars from the 60s as daily drivers in all conditions. Volvos and Saabs in particular had furnace like heaters and even old Beetles with solid floorpans had toastie winter heat. A good one lf these mercs preventatively maintained will be a brilliant daily in my opinion. Hardtop option bolted on winter time!
You could, they worked back in the day, correctly maintained they’ll work now.

The caveats are can you cope (emotionally and financially) with deterioration, you'll either need a good indi or be competent diyer. Plus you'll need a back up plan, parts sometimes take time to source.

biggbn

24,930 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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PositronicRay said:
biggbn said:
Mr Tidy said:
I wouldn't want to run any car that age as a daily and keep it outdoors!

I like having a daily I know will always work, get me where I'm going and get me back with no issues. But maybe my previous experience with older Mercedes (as in up to 10 years old when I had them) has coloured my view.
I've ran cars from the 60s as daily drivers in all conditions. Volvos and Saabs in particular had furnace like heaters and even old Beetles with solid floorpans had toastie winter heat. A good one lf these mercs preventatively maintained will be a brilliant daily in my opinion. Hardtop option bolted on winter time!
You could, they worked back in the day, correctly maintained they’ll work now.

The caveats are can you cope (emotionally and financially) with deterioration, you'll either need a good indi or be competent diyer. Plus you'll need a back up plan, parts sometimes take time to source.
Buy well, keep maintained, rust proof and enjoy. Cars were designed to be used not looked at. I'd love an auto straight six one of these

acme

3,002 posts

205 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I’ve a 88 300SL which has been in the family 30 years next year so might be able to help!

My advice is as ever go in with your eyes wide open. Like all cars they have their intrinsic faults, but I simply adore it, but it’s very much a sunny Sunday car not a daily.

To steal another PH users comment from many years ago you don’t drive a 107 but sail it, sporty they are not!

There are lots of guides but personally I’d join the Merc club, they’re very friendly & the forums great. I think the 107 register captain uses his as a daily so it can be done.

Mercdriver

2,618 posts

40 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Had one of these some time ago and echo they are not for regular use, regarding different prices there are many cheap ones out there that have been tarted up, usually rusty, leaving a soft top out in all weathers is not good but they should have a hard top too. As above later ones are galvanised but they may have been in an accident and the repairs may not be up to the same standard. The better ones are usually in very good condition with a good service history but you are paying for that.

Merc used to be good for spares parts are flown overnight from Germany by Lufthansa but maybe not so good now. Availability maybe a problem even using the SL shop who are good but what will you do if car is off the road do you have other transport? Parts are expensive.

I loved driving the car (380SL) but I would go for the 5 litre or a 420 I sold mine because it was not being used enough and was getting rusty underneath watch for scuttle shake repairing that is very expensive. I also moved to the country and wanted a G wagen but that is another story.

They were called Pamela’s after jr Ewing tv programme as his wife drove one.

Join the MB club they might be able to put you in contact with an enthusiast who is selling.

Edited by Mercdriver on Wednesday 6th December 21:04

nikaiyo2

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5,026 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Thanks for the input guys.

I think as I suspected running one as a daily might not be a wise idea. I think I might have given it a go had I had a decent garage, but I think leaving out in all weathers is just asking to be let down.

biggbn

24,930 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Try one. A good one. I suspect you'd be surprised at its solidity and ease of use. No car was designed to be garaged. Find a good one, get the underside treated and use it as much as you can. Finding a good one might be the problem though!! Lots or rusty wrecks dressed up. Alternatively the SLC is a rather wonderful old bus with real pedigree and no worries about a leaking soft top.

Wee link for ya.

https://www.theslshop.com/journal/2019/01/30/is-th...

Edited by biggbn on Thursday 7th December 19:57

nikaiyo2

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5,026 posts

202 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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biggbn said:
Try one. A good one. I suspect you'd be surprised at its solidity and ease of use. No car was designed to be garaged. Find a good one, get the underside treated and use it as much as you can. Finding a good one might be the problem though!! Lots or rusty wrecks dressed up. Alternatively the SLC is a rather wonderful old bus with real pedigree and no worries about a leaking soft top.

Wee link for ya.

https://www.theslshop.com/journal/2019/01/30/is-th...

Edited by biggbn on Thursday 7th December 19:57
Haha enabler tongue out

I would love an SLC, but they seem to be x2 the cost of an SL.

biggbn

24,930 posts

227 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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nikaiyo2 said:
biggbn said:
Try one. A good one. I suspect you'd be surprised at its solidity and ease of use. No car was designed to be garaged. Find a good one, get the underside treated and use it as much as you can. Finding a good one might be the problem though!! Lots or rusty wrecks dressed up. Alternatively the SLC is a rather wonderful old bus with real pedigree and no worries about a leaking soft top.

Wee link for ya.

https://www.theslshop.com/journal/2019/01/30/is-th...

Edited by biggbn on Thursday 7th December 19:57
Haha enabler tongue out

I would love an SLC, but they seem to be x2 the cost of an SL.
I did not know that!! Rally pedigree on the SLC as well!

nikaiyo2

Original Poster:

5,026 posts

202 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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biggbn said:
I did not know that!! Rally pedigree on the SLC as well!
My research was very quick googling so maybe don’t treat that as gospel lol


300sl-24

536 posts

101 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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I have had a 500SL for 15 years. You could use daily without a problem, they are built like tanks. Don't be fooled by the later 'galvanised' models, they all can rust pretty much the same.
Main rust issue is the bulkhead, floor pans and sills. Mechanically they are pretty robust, V8's cam chains stretch and need changing around 100k miles. The straight 6 280 is a rattly, thirsty old engine. If you can live without a V8 the straight six 300SL is probably the one to daily.
All should have a matching hard top for the winter.

Due to the current values, mine is a summer car only now and is garaged all winter. I use a R129 320SL as a daily nowadays which is a better, more modern car for daily use, built better, more safety features and a fair bit cheaper to buy. It is not such a good looker in the classic sense but still very smart.

Join the official Mercedes-Benz Club, lots of help and information over there.