Dealership Test Drive
Dealership Test Drive
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hamd01

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53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Right guys...Im slightly choking on my own rage.... I'd love to know if you guys think I'm miffed off with or without reason.

We bought our car, a brand new MG4 less than 12 months ago from censored.  It was booked in for 12 months service, so decided whilst visiting (it's an hour drive) I would also book a test drive of the new xpower model. I phoned a week ahead to do this, and explained I would be short on time, and just wanted purely to test drive to see how I liked it, having already read some very positive reviews. I explained I was dropping the MG4 in for service at the same time.

In the meantime I talked the Mrs around on the idea of potentially upgrading, and she agreed to come along.

We had to bring the kids as it's a 2 hour round trip, but arrived at the dealship, dropped our mg4 into the service area and then walked into the sales office.

My license was taken for copy, and the salesman asked me to take a seat.  I politely explained that at this stage I purely wanted to take the test drive, as thats what we had come for, and for him to advise me of the cost of upgrade the next day, preferably via email.  

He told me he was going to get the trade plates from the manager, and did so.  He the asked me what cost of upgrade we were looking for.  Again I explained I puerly wanted to see if we felt the car was worth upgrading before getting into the financials.

He went to see his manager a second time, and came back asking about our existing vehicle finances, and value.  I explained we had bought the car from them less than a year earlier so he should be able to see all those records on the system.

A third time, he went off to see his manager.  This time he returned and said that "we cant start throwing keys around willie nillie".  I explained that it wasn't willie nillie, and we had spent £27k with them less than a year ago.  He then said "we dont want you to test drive it if you cant afford it".  I explained this was quite offensive, and we would leave it and speak to another dealership. I was honestly treated like someone who had wondered in off the street and said 'give us a test drive'.

If the dealership do not wish to allow people to test drive, before first sitting them down for negotiation, then they shouldnt allow a customer to book a test drive on that basis.  Especially not when the customer has a 2 hour round trip.

Anyway, that propoer miffed me off for the evening....and obviously the only way to deal with it is vote with my feet...... but christ, talking about customer loyalty!

No name and shame please. Mod edit


Edited by hamd01 on Tuesday 14th November 22:11

LosingGrip

8,792 posts

186 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Or from the other point of view...someone drops their car off for a service and wants a car to dick around in for a few hours.

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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LosingGrip said:
Or from the other point of view...someone drops their car off for a service and wants a car to dick around in for a few hours.
Yeah totally if thats their policy then fair enough. It was a 30 minute accompanied test drive I was booked in for though. I think that would be an unfair judgment to make, given I'm an existing customer, and they could have explained that when I booked the test drive a week earlier.

swisstoni

23,393 posts

306 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I notice on the MG UK website there’s a facility to book a testdrive at a dealership of your choice.

It might be fun to book one at this dealership and deliver a few home truths to them while you are there. hehe

Either way, you have been treated poorly and a I would contact MG HQ and tell them what you have experienced.

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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swisstoni said:
I notice on the MG UK website there’s a facility to book a testdrive at a dealership of your choice.

It might be fun to book one at this dealership and deliver a few home truths to them while you are there. hehe

Either way, you have been treated poorly and a I would contact MG HQ and tell them what you have experienced.
Honesty I dont mind them saying that I cant have a test drive before agreeing finances. If thats their policy, fair enough. What I dont like, is that they let me book on the basis of a test drive only, and they spoke to me like I was somthing they scraped off the bottom of their shoe. On top of being an existing, proven paying customer.

I probably wont book a test drive with them, as honestly I wouldnt want to give them any more money.


CloudStuff

4,193 posts

131 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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hamd01 said:
Right guys...Im slightly choking on my own rage.... I'd love to know if you guys think I'm miffed off with or without reason.

We bought our car, a brand new MG4 less than 12 months ago from censored.  It was booked in for 12 months service, so decided whilst visiting (it's an hour drive) I would also book a test drive of the new xdrive model. I phoned a week ahead to do this, and explained I would be short on time, and just wanted purely to test drive to see how I liked it, having already read some very positive reviews. I explained I was dropping the MG4 in for service at the same time.

In the meantime I talked the Mrs around on the idea of potentially upgrading, and she agreed to come along.

We had to bring the kids as it's a 2 hour round trip, but arrived at the dealship, dropped our mg4 into the service area and then walked into the sales office.

My license was taken for copy, and the salesman asked me to take a seat.  I politely explained that at this stage I purely wanted to take the test drive, as thats what we had come for, and for him to advise me of the cost of upgrade the next day, preferably via email.  

He told me he was going to get the trade plates from the manager, and did so.  He the asked me what cost of upgrade we were looking for.  Again I explained I puerly wanted to see if we felt the car was worth upgrading before getting into the financials.

He went to see his manager a second time, and came back asking about our existing vehicle finances, and value.  I explained we had bought the car from them less than a year earlier so he should be able to see all those records on the system.

A third time, he went off to see his manager.  This time he returned and said that "we cant start throwing keys around willie nillie".  I explained that it wasn't willie nillie, and we had spent £27k with them less than a year ago.  He then said "we dont want you to test drive it if you cant afford it".  I explained this was quite offensive, and we would leave it and speak to another dealership. I was honestly treated like someone who had wondered in off the street and said 'give us a test drive'.

If the dealership do not wish to allow people to test drive, before first sitting them down for negotiation, then they shouldnt allow a customer to book a test drive on that basis.  Especially not when the customer has a 2 hour round trip.

Anyway, that propoer miffed me off for the evening....and obviously the only way to deal with it is vote with my feet...... but christ, talking about customer loyalty!

No name and shame please. Mod edit
rofl

It's an MG, the stuipd clown! You should have slammed his face into his cold ginsters (figuratively, of course).

Puzzles

3,463 posts

138 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Seems mental to spend all that dosh on marketing only to turn away someone who should be an easy sell.

I’ve often asked dealerships for a car I’m considering while mine is in for a service, pretty much everyone has been accommodating and a fair number have bent over backwards.

Edited by Puzzles on Tuesday 14th November 21:46

swisstoni

23,393 posts

306 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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hamd01 said:
swisstoni said:
I notice on the MG UK website there’s a facility to book a testdrive at a dealership of your choice.

It might be fun to book one at this dealership and deliver a few home truths to them while you are there. hehe

Either way, you have been treated poorly and a I would contact MG HQ and tell them what you have experienced.
Honesty I dont mind them saying that I cant have a test drive before agreeing finances. If thats their policy, fair enough. What I dont like, is that they let me book on the basis of a test drive only, and they spoke to me like I was somthing they scraped off the bottom of their shoe. On top of being an existing, proven paying customer.

I probably wont book a test drive with them, as honestly I wouldnt want to give them any more money.
My point was that HQ don’t seem as sniffy as the dealership staff and you would be basically going over their heads.

But fair enough; plenty of other brands out there.

Pistom

6,379 posts

186 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I share how the OP feels.

I don't think he could have done more or made it easier for the dealership.

Total Muppets.

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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swisstoni said:
My point was that HQ don’t seem as sniffy as the dealership staff and you would be basically going over their heads.

But fair enough; plenty of other brands out there.
Ahh I see what you mean. I am going to drop HQ an email.

As someone above has said, they spend a fortune gettings cars into the dealers.....for the dealers to deny access to someone who is genuinely buzzing about the new model seems completly backwards. I do love my MG4....and I probably will go for the xdrive.... just not from the same dealer.

andyb28

1,134 posts

145 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I had a very similar experience with my local Porsche garage. I wanted to test drive a Macan and arrived in my Defender. Not an old rotter, its a 2014 Utility, but I get the point its perhaps not everyones cup of tea.

I needed a 2nd, more comfortable 4x4 and wanted it quite quickly as we were going on a ski holiday.

I can honestly say I have never been made to feel so unwelcome anywhere that I was about to spend £70k with. I wasn't allowed to do a test drive either. I walked out fuming and went straight around to Land Rover and purchased a Discovery 5. I did think about returning to Porsche to have my Pretty Woman moment, but decided I will never set foot in that place again.


anonymous-user

81 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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hamd01 said:
swisstoni said:
My point was that HQ don’t seem as sniffy as the dealership staff and you would be basically going over their heads.

But fair enough; plenty of other brands out there.
Ahh I see what you mean. I am going to drop HQ an email.

As someone above has said, they spend a fortune gettings cars into the dealers.....for the dealers to deny access to someone who is genuinely buzzing about the new model seems completly backwards. I do love my MG4....and I probably will go for the xdrive.... just not from the same dealer.
You mean XPower I assume? ...XDrive is BMW's 4WD system

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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andyb28 said:
I had a very similar experience with my local Porsche garage. I wanted to test drive a Macan and arrived in my Defender. Not an old rotter, its a 2014 Utility, but I get the point its perhaps not everyones cup of tea.

I needed a 2nd, more comfortable 4x4 and wanted it quite quickly as we were going on a ski holiday.

I can honestly say I have never been made to feel so unwelcome anywhere that I was about to spend £70k with. I wasn't allowed to do a test drive either. I walked out fuming and went straight around to Land Rover and purchased a Discovery 5. I did think about returning to Porsche to have my Pretty Woman moment, but decided I will never set foot in that place again.
That sounds a very similar feeling you walked away with!! I feel even more aggreaved being an already paying customer!

Its a few hours ago now, and I'm not usually sensitive to this kind of things and I'm thick skinned. But the whol experience has really wound me up. A letter has gone to the MD of the group, and to MG HQ. I'll be interested to see how Im greeted tomorrow when I go to pick up my car from service! I know one thing, even if they offer, I wont be taking it for test drive!

BenS94

3,245 posts

51 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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lord trumpton said:
hamd01 said:
swisstoni said:
My point was that HQ don’t seem as sniffy as the dealership staff and you would be basically going over their heads.

But fair enough; plenty of other brands out there.
Ahh I see what you mean. I am going to drop HQ an email.

As someone above has said, they spend a fortune gettings cars into the dealers.....for the dealers to deny access to someone who is genuinely buzzing about the new model seems completly backwards. I do love my MG4....and I probably will go for the xdrive.... just not from the same dealer.
You mean XPower I assume? ...XDrive is BMW's 4WD system
I was about to say this, probably the issue laughbanghead

Julian Thompson

2,688 posts

265 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Outrageous behaviour - I think it was very fair of you to be upfront and honest about your plan. The salesman had a full half hour drive to convince you to upgrade. If he can’t be arsed to take that challenge on then he literally is redundant and everyone may as well go home at the dealership. Bunch of clowns.

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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lord trumpton said:
You mean XPower I assume? ...XDrive is BMW's 4WD system
Christ the whole things fried my brain and ive gone back 15 years to a bm! Yes the xpower!

hamd01

Original Poster:

53 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Julian Thompson said:
Outrageous behaviour - I think it was very fair of you to be upfront and honest about your plan. The salesman had a full half hour drive to convince you to upgrade. If he can’t be arsed to take that challenge on then he literally is redundant and everyone may as well go home at the dealership. Bunch of clowns.
I very very much doubt I would have signed tonight. More likely in 3 months. But its a trek to the dealer, which is why I wanted to kill two birds with one stone. 100% the x will be my next car, certainly from the reviews.

troika

2,124 posts

178 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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In fairness to the salesman, he probably took one look at what he could offer in part ex and did everything he could to avoid having that conversation.

Julian Thompson

2,688 posts

265 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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hamd01 said:
Julian Thompson said:
Outrageous behaviour - I think it was very fair of you to be upfront and honest about your plan. The salesman had a full half hour drive to convince you to upgrade. If he can’t be arsed to take that challenge on then he literally is redundant and everyone may as well go home at the dealership. Bunch of clowns.
I very very much doubt I would have signed tonight. More likely in 3 months. But its a trek to the dealer, which is why I wanted to kill two birds with one stone. 100% the x will be my next car, certainly from the reviews.
Every car dealer wants you to sign tonight. But tonight’s test drive turns into the sale you make in 3 months, on that night. It’s just lunacy to treat a customer like that! No wonder you’re annoyed!

CloudStuff

4,193 posts

131 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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troika said:
In fairness to the salesman, he probably took one look at what he could offer in part ex and did everything he could to avoid having that conversation.
The can't afford comment is a p1ss take though!