Is the ID.3 really that bad?
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I'm looking at sub-20k electric cars. My first choice would be a hatchback or estate.
There are plenty of cars starting to come in to that range, but most of them are SUVs. I could live with that, but not my first choice.
Used ID.3s are now in that price range. I can see that as a 40k new car they might have been disappointing, but are they still disappointing as a sub-20k used EV?
I have to admit that I quite like the looks, and the form factor would be perfect for me. Primary use would be a 90-mile round-trip commute on fast A-road / dual carriageway, about 25k miles per year.
If the Tesla Model 3 was a hatchback I'd sit on my hands for another 6 to 12 months for them to come in to my price range.
There are plenty of cars starting to come in to that range, but most of them are SUVs. I could live with that, but not my first choice.
Used ID.3s are now in that price range. I can see that as a 40k new car they might have been disappointing, but are they still disappointing as a sub-20k used EV?
I have to admit that I quite like the looks, and the form factor would be perfect for me. Primary use would be a 90-mile round-trip commute on fast A-road / dual carriageway, about 25k miles per year.
If the Tesla Model 3 was a hatchback I'd sit on my hands for another 6 to 12 months for them to come in to my price range.
They’re fine if you can live with the interior. Apparently software updates have fixed a lot of the infotainment issues, but stupid things like not having a backlight under some key controls, haptic switches on the steering wheel which are too easy to hit accidentally and the window switches being a really stupid design with two switches to control four windows can’t be fixed.
I found it dull to drive although very capable and the efficiency was pretty poor so definitely investigate the alternatives too.
I found it dull to drive although very capable and the efficiency was pretty poor so definitely investigate the alternatives too.
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Thanks all.
The e-C4 looks interesting. Said to be very comfortable, I could probably live with its reputed 150 mile real-world range.
The DS3 Crossback is another smart option & well under budget:The e-C4 looks interesting. Said to be very comfortable, I could probably live with its reputed 150 mile real-world range.
Edited by this is my username on Saturday 29th July 12:53
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307149...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302033...
I have to agree with the above in that the e-C4 (it's the same drivetrain as the DS3 above) in Shine Plus spec makes the most sense when it comes to a sub 20k EV:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306128...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307229...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303085...
Tried an e-C4 too and it was fine, very comfortable, very soft riding, spacious, Weird throttle mapping though, even in sport mode getaway from a standing start was frustratingly slow. Not terrible, but definitely meant entering a busy roundabout was something which needed extra planning.
I preferred the Corsa-e to either of them, it’s a smaller car but if you don’t need the space it was a good little car.
I preferred the Corsa-e to either of them, it’s a smaller car but if you don’t need the space it was a good little car.
At £20k they're fine, certainly better than the £20k Mk4 Honda Jazz hybrid I owned.
Not a luxury car, but similar to a Polo.
If you do long drives and in winter the bigger battery pack and heat pump and worthwhile, but the base 57kW car will likely be fine for most people.
In the summer on country roads I had a 220 mile real range from a 90/95% charge.
In winter that was down to 110 miles with the heater on and only a 80% charge. But that was at minus 7 and having been left outside overnight not plugged in. Still enough range for most people though.
It would meet your 90 mile requirement with a full charge, and we are unlikely to see those sorts of temperatures again with warming.
Not a luxury car, but similar to a Polo.
If you do long drives and in winter the bigger battery pack and heat pump and worthwhile, but the base 57kW car will likely be fine for most people.
In the summer on country roads I had a 220 mile real range from a 90/95% charge.
In winter that was down to 110 miles with the heater on and only a 80% charge. But that was at minus 7 and having been left outside overnight not plugged in. Still enough range for most people though.
It would meet your 90 mile requirement with a full charge, and we are unlikely to see those sorts of temperatures again with warming.
May be of interest
Also a recent discussion at the £15k price point
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Also a recent discussion at the £15k price point
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
GreatGranny said:
Interesting - I can't say I've ever seen the term "PCO" before. Had to look it up (Public Carriage Office).Those prev gen Niros do look very old compared to the new model. I guess that'll keep happening though.
GreatGranny said:
Well that's put the cat amongst the pigeons - I want an iPace now!Sheepshanks said:
People have said they like the RWD dynamics of ID.3 - I can appreciate that as I've had RWD, but most "knocking about" family cars are FWD.
Does anyone know how RWD EVs cope with slippery weather?
I was driving an id3 in the minus 7 weather, roads a bit slippy but not too bad.Does anyone know how RWD EVs cope with slippery weather?
Traction/traction control seems well set up as I didn't get any slip from the rear. Probably helps as an EV has a lot of low down weight spread rather than a traditional ICE RWD with a heavy engine up front and power to the back.
Only thing I noticed was that a frozen battery pack accepts charge slower than in normal temperatures - your braking is mostly the friction brakes as the normal regen braking is limited. Not too much of a problem, but can catch you out if you aren't aware and suddenly find the brakes not as effective.
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