MK3 Focus RS

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MK1RS Bruce

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681 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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My wife is currently considering a new car and is keen on one of these.

She currently has a 5dr clio which has done her nicely but since the arrival of our first born we are finding its a little tight on space.

Pram wheels fit in the boot but the bassinette has to live on the rear passenger seat which is less than ideal given the other seat is taken up with the car seat. Also finding that we need the front passenger seat all the way forward to clear the car seat.

So the question is people with MK3 RS's how do you find boot space for prams etc and all the other stuff that children require to be carried around?

Also how much space is there with a car seat in the back for the front seat passenger and is there a difference in this f you have the standard seats vs the shell buckets?

I haven't driven one so open question what are they like to live with on a daily basis?

thanks

ScoobyChris

1,806 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Not sure how comparable it is but we had a new-born with a Mk 3 ST. Boot is pretty big for the size of car and I don't remember us ever really struggling to get everything we needed in. With the stock-Recaro seats, fitting a rear-facing baby seat in the back was tight and the passenger seat needed moving forwards, although this seemed to be the case with all cars in this class we looked at. Passenger seat was still usable though without having your face resting on the windscreen!

Chris

Dazzler83

6 posts

25 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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I looked at the MK3 RS as wanted something with practicality and fun. While it is semi practical with the rear seats, the boot space is far from ideal (assumingly due to AWD). Went with the CLA45 Shooting Brake in the end as offers a much more useable boot. Not sure on your exact needs, but don't think you will have a lot of space left once a pushchair is in the boot.

MK1RS Bruce

Original Poster:

681 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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ScoobyChris said:
Not sure how comparable it is but we had a new-born with a Mk 3 ST. Boot is pretty big for the size of car and I don't remember us ever really struggling to get everything we needed in. With the stock-Recaro seats, fitting a rear-facing baby seat in the back was tight and the passenger seat needed moving forwards, although this seemed to be the case with all cars in this class we looked at. Passenger seat was still usable though without having your face resting on the windscreen!

Chris
Cheers Chris, I have heard the boot is smaller than the ST due to the 4wd parts but not sure on the details, probably just need to have a look at one and take all the baby / child stuff with us.

jamiem555

792 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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The boot is tiny. I bought a Mk3.5 ST-3 in 2016. I really wanted and had the budget for an RS but at the time my twins were 2 and there was no chance a double buggy would fit in the boot. I would say the RS boot is half the size of the standard FWD Focus. You open it and it’s level with the lip.

MK1RS Bruce

Original Poster:

681 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Dazzler83 said:
I looked at the MK3 RS as wanted something with practicality and fun. While it is semi practical with the rear seats, the boot space is far from ideal (assumingly due to AWD). Went with the CLA45 Shooting Brake in the end as offers a much more useable boot. Not sure on your exact needs, but don't think you will have a lot of space left once a pushchair is in the boot.
Main requirement is just to be able to get the pram in the boot rather than wheels in the boot and basket in the back seat which is a PITA.

If any one has some dimensions that would be great and I can compare with what we have currently.

MK1RS Bruce

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681 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Had some free time this afternoon so went to have a look at one locally.

We did manage to get the basinette and the wheels in the boot so it certainly passed the first test, not masses of space but enough still to be able to get a few bags of shopping in too so should be suitable for our needs.

The one we looked at we looked at had the standard seats which are fine as the missus can jack them up to be able to see out, saleman said the buckets are fixed height does anyone know if that’s true and are they higher than the normal ones to account for short women / men?

I am keen on the buckets as I think that’s the more desirable spec so interested to know if anyone else who is short of has a short missus has one with the Shell bucket seats?

Is there anything else I should look out for on one other than recall for head gasket?

st3ven1

233 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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MK1RS Bruce said:
Had some free time this afternoon so went to have a look at one locally.

We did manage to get the basinette and the wheels in the boot so it certainly passed the first test, not masses of space but enough still to be able to get a few bags of shopping in too so should be suitable for our needs.

The one we looked at we looked at had the standard seats which are fine as the missus can jack them up to be able to see out, saleman said the buckets are fixed height does anyone know if that’s true and are they higher than the normal ones to account for short women / men?

I am keen on the buckets as I think that’s the more desirable spec so interested to know if anyone else who is short of has a short missus has one with the Shell bucket seats?

Is there anything else I should look out for on one other than recall for head gasket?
I have a Mk3 RS and we regularly take the large pram in it, sometimes it's easier to take the parcel shelf out as it can sit in a raised position if the boot is full.

As for the seats, I actively sought out the non-shell Recaros as I wanted the hight adjustment(for my wife), seat heating (winter pack) and seat airbags. All of which the shell Recaros don't have.

I've driven both types of seats regularly as we have an RS with shell seats in the family as well. I've never once thought that I wanted the shell seats, however the owner of the other car has commented a few times that they wish they had the non-shell seats. They keep a spare cushion for their wife to use when driving.

The shell seats while not height adjustable are on a slight slope, so the closer to the wheel the higher they are, but definitely not properly adjustable.

I understand about the more desirable status of the shell seats as they were an optional extra, but for me it wasn't what I was looking for in my seats. Best bet is to try them both.

Other than the head gasket, all of which were changed under warranty, I don't think there is any common faults. The exhaust flap can stick which stops the drive modes being selected, but it's easily fixed by freeing off the flap.

Certainly the two in the family have had zero reliability issues over the last 4-5 years. thumbup

Options to look out for are forged wheels, Lux pack, winter pack consisting of heated seats and steering wheel(rare) & sunroof(very rare).

Late 2016 cars should have sync 3 rather than sync 2, sync 3 is much better. I've also added an AAWireless box to give me wireless Android Auto which is very handy.

As these are the last RS cars I suspect they will hold their value very well.

Pflanzgarten

4,877 posts

32 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Looked at the RS when they were new but ended up buying the contemporary Type-R (the short lived circa 2016-2017 one).

Massive amount more space and genuinely clever space in the back. When I think of out first born I think of that car!

In the end, we used it for just about everything as there was more usable space than the wife’s BMW 4x4.

I actually think it drive better than the RS too but that’s another matter, I know people live fast fords and wouldn’t necessarily consider a Honda over one.

Glosphil

4,499 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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An Octavia vRS will give far more room in the boot & rear seat & more than adequate performance.

Do you really need the performance of a Focus RS to carry 2 kids around?

Pflanzgarten

4,877 posts

32 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Glosphil said:
An Octavia vRS will give far more room in the boot & rear seat & more than adequate performance.

Do you really need the performance of a Focus RS to carry 2 kids around?
Would he need an Octavia vRS for ferrying his kids about? It's nice to have nice things sometimes.

MK1RS Bruce

Original Poster:

681 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Glosphil said:
An Octavia vRS will give far more room in the boot & rear seat & more than adequate performance.

Do you really need the performance of a Focus RS to carry 2 kids around?
We currently ferry her about in a 1 litre Clio or a fiesta ST so we don’t need the performance but we both work hard and it’s a car that we both like which is a happy coincidence.

MK1RS Bruce

Original Poster:

681 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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st3ven1 said:
I have a Mk3 RS and we regularly take the large pram in it, sometimes it's easier to take the parcel shelf out as it can sit in a raised position if the boot is full.

As for the seats, I actively sought out the non-shell Recaros as I wanted the hight adjustment(for my wife), seat heating (winter pack) and seat airbags. All of which the shell Recaros don't have.

I've driven both types of seats regularly as we have an RS with shell seats in the family as well. I've never once thought that I wanted the shell seats, however the owner of the other car has commented a few times that they wish they had the non-shell seats. They keep a spare cushion for their wife to use when driving.

The shell seats while not height adjustable are on a slight slope, so the closer to the wheel the higher they are, but definitely not properly adjustable.

I understand about the more desirable status of the shell seats as they were an optional extra, but for me it wasn't what I was looking for in my seats. Best bet is to try them both.

Other than the head gasket, all of which were changed under warranty, I don't think there is any common faults. The exhaust flap can stick which stops the drive modes being selected, but it's easily fixed by freeing off the flap.

Certainly the two in the family have had zero reliability issues over the last 4-5 years. thumbup

Options to look out for are forged wheels, Lux pack, winter pack consisting of heated seats and steering wheel(rare) & sunroof(very rare).

Late 2016 cars should have sync 3 rather than sync 2, sync 3 is much better. I've also added an AAWireless box to give me wireless Android Auto which is very handy.

As these are the last RS cars I suspect they will hold their value very well.
Thanks for the excellent reply, yeah plan is to have a look at one with the shell seats and see if she can see out with them. You make a lot of good points and not having the shell seats isn’t a deal breaker for me as it’ll be predominately her car.

I’ve got a mk1 focus RS so I’ve got the RS brand in my blood and would quite like what will likely be the last of the brand for a while at least.

We are used to hard suspension with the mk7 fiesta ST so I think we would be quite happy with the car and if as you say it’s relatively reliable then that’s an added bonus.

What’s servicing like? I usually do oil, filters and brakes myself but would likely want to keep a service history on a car like this.

rev-erend

21,536 posts

291 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Get a test ride first.

I owned one for a year or two but hated the overly hard ride.

Sure it was good on track but a pain day to day.

I spent all my time researching different ride solutions which was daft.

Traded it in for a e92 m3 v8.

georgeyboy12345

3,641 posts

42 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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They also use a direct injection engine, so might benefit from a strip & walnut blast if you notice the fuel consumption is horrendous, if you go for an older/ higher mileage example.

Bobupndown

2,146 posts

50 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Ford mad bloke persuades wife RS focus is ideal family shopping car.....

MK1RS Bruce

Original Poster:

681 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Hahahahaha it’s actually the wife convincing the tight Scottish farmer that she needs a new car and that it could be an RS.

Macron

10,748 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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In my experience, as a parent and now grandparent, it's a lot cheaper to buy a different pushchair than swap car. So buy the RS you want. The kid won't give a fk what they're in, regardless of what mum thinks.

Belle427

9,736 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Go for it I say.
Sure the ride is harsh and it only really comes alive when driven hard but if you are set on one.
Lots of early problems with headgaskets but these should be sorted by now.

Glosphil

4,499 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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MK1RS Bruce said:
Glosphil said:
An Octavia vRS will give far more room in the boot & rear seat & more than adequate performance.

Do you really need the performance of a Focus RS to carry 2 kids around?
We currently ferry her about in a 1 litre Clio or a fiesta ST so we don’t need the performance but we both work hard and it’s a car that we both like which is a happy coincidence.
I made my comment as your original post seemed to be concerned about boot space & room in back seat for the modern large kid's car seat.

I found an Octavia ideal when transporting our grandaughter whereas a friend found his Focus too small for similar duties.