Selling project car. What to write on receipt?
Selling project car. What to write on receipt?
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roca1976

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677 posts

143 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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I have sold a 45yr old car, recent engine rebuild still running in. I need some advice on what to write on the receipt to protect myself should the car develop any faults down the line. The buyer acknowledges it is still a project and plans to restore it later.

robemcdonald

9,889 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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Sold as seen with no guarantees written or implied?

Just like any used car sale.

BertBert

21,157 posts

239 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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You can also add a sentence about it being a project car requiring much work to rectify issues, complete and make road worthy. It won't harm.

maz8062

3,865 posts

243 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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The best thing to do is be honest. Don’t hide anything - highlight faults, potential issues and evidence what you’ve claimed in the ad. The ad description is the most important. Provided you’ve done that you’ll be fine, even if it goes to court which it might given how much it costs to sue someone these days.

All that ‘bought as seen, no warranty” etc, not worth the paper it’s written on. Just be honest, upfront and don’t exaggerate.

EC2

1,546 posts

281 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Don't write a receipt. Just transfer the V5 in the normal way.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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It’s illegal to sell a car in non road worth condition unless it’s for “spares and repairs”

So would write something about spares and repairs on the receipt

roca1976

Original Poster:

677 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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The grey area is the fact it is MOT exempt, I maintain it and happy to drive it on the road because I keep an eye on it.

Just wanted to ensure the receipt reflected the fact. I have been very transparent and the vendor has viewed it three times and I have driven him around the block twice.

Cheers

geeks

11,495 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Pistonheader101 said:
It’s illegal to sell a car in non road worth condition unless it’s for “spares and repairs”

So would write something about spares and repairs on the receipt
No, no it isn't

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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geeks said:
No, no it isn't
yes it is

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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OP you are a private seller not a trader, is that correct?

roca1976

Original Poster:

677 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Yes a private seller, never sold a classic before so want to make sure i am protected.
Will also add a line about it needing running in and checkimg soon

ARHarh

4,892 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Pistonheader101 said:
geeks said:
No, no it isn't
yes it is
Of cause its not illegal to sell a non road worthy car, why do you even think it would be. If a scrap dealer paid for your scrap car would he be sent to jail? I think not. You can sell anything, except maybe drugs.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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ARHarh said:
Pistonheader101 said:
geeks said:
No, no it isn't
yes it is
Of cause its not illegal to sell a non road worthy car, why do you even think it would be. If a scrap dealer paid for your scrap car would he be sent to jail? I think not. You can sell anything, except maybe drugs.
yes it is. google it.

twing

5,757 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Pistonheader101 said:
yes it is. google it.
Oh yeah you're correct wrong

https://www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/moto...

OMITN

3,020 posts

120 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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The info you need OP can be found:

Here: https://www.daslaw.co.uk/blog/selling-a-car-rights...

And

Here: https://www.theaa.com/car-buying/buyers-sellers-co...

Edited by OMITN on Tuesday 23 August 16:12

OMITN

3,020 posts

120 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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twing said:
Pistonheader101 said:
yes it is. google it.
Oh yeah you're correct wrong

https://www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/moto...
Actually, you’re both correct and wrong. It is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car (whether you’re a private seller or a trader)…but only if you don’t make clear that it is is unroadworthy (and therefore only available for spares/repairs). That’s not a difficult hurdle for a private seller (as you’re unlikely to be prosecuted). A current MOT is no guarantee of roadworthiness.

geeks

11,495 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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OMITN said:
twing said:
Pistonheader101 said:
yes it is. google it.
Oh yeah you're correct wrong

https://www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/moto...
Actually, you’re both correct and wrong. It is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car (whether you’re a private seller or a trader)…but only if you don’t make clear that it is is unroadworthy (and therefore only available for spares/repairs). That’s not a difficult hurdle for a private seller (as you’re unlikely to be prosecuted). A current MOT is no guarantee of roadworthiness.
So PH101 is still wrong as it is categorically not a requirement to sell as "spare or repairs". I stand by my it's not illegal stance, yes you need to make it clear that it is of suspect condition but doing so is NOT illegal.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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OP as others have suggested, the wording of the advert is critically important.

If you've sold it via and advert that says (for example) 'Excellent Condition' that's what the buyer will rightfully expect.

It was your advertisement that induced the sale (in part at least) and you can't write anything on the receipt that will allow you to withdraw or alter any of the information that the advert contained.

If you're having second thoughts about whether you're happy to stand by the wording of the advert then the best thing to do might be have a frank convo with the buyer while there's still time.