Car sat for four months at dealership - issues?
Car sat for four months at dealership - issues?
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MitchT

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17,112 posts

236 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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As part of my research into a particular make/model of car I'm interested in, I noticed one example that fits the bill perfectly in terms of what I want. However, according to the price history on Car Gurus it's been with the dealer for more than four months. It was first listed at £22k and is now £19k, so maybe the reason it's been sitting so long is that it was overpriced, however, what interests me more is what potential issues you might have with a car that's been sitting for so long. Being a modern (four year old) car with all the tech (stop/start, etc.) I'm guessing there's plenty to go wrong and the battery alone is likely to be a big outlay if that hasn't taken too kindly to a lack of use. Am I overthinking it or could a long stream of bills follow the initial purchase outlay, purely because it's been sat doing nothing?

sherman

15,147 posts

242 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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rofl
4 months is nothing. If the battery is flat I will be amazed . Buy it take it for a good run to get everything charged up and it will all be fine.

Open the bidfing at £15k. The dealer probably wants it of the forecourt.

Ussrcossack

1,029 posts

69 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Are you sure it has physically been "sat"

It maybe loaned out to a customer who is awaiting delivery of their new car or might be a loan car for the service department and used every so often.

It could also be a demonstrator.

Muzzer79

12,875 posts

214 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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20 years ago a colleague of mine was loaned a company car whilst he was seconded to another site.

His mid-90s Honda Civic sat on his drive for 9 months through winter. He didn't start the engine or even touch it in that time.

After 9 months were up and he had to give the company car back, his Civic started on the button and was as faultless as ever when pressed back into daily use.

If you were buying a very modern Ferrari or other such exotic, not using it for a few months may risk the battery and other such associated electrical systems. But for a 'regular' car? It will be fine.

In short:

MitchT said:
Am I overthinking it
Yes.

MitchT

Original Poster:

17,112 posts

236 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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sherman said:
4 months is nothing.
Possibly, though a friend did suggest that petrol sitting in the tank could have "gone off" in that time.

sherman said:
If the battery is flat I will be amazed.
It's not so much a concern that it might be flat, more that if it hasn't been through the usual regular charging cycles its longevity might have been compromised.

Ussrcossack said:
Are you sure it has physically been "sat"
No, it may well have been in use by someone.

Ussrcossack said:
It could also be a demonstrator.
Not likely as it's an independent car supermarket type place selling all brands of car.

sherman

15,147 posts

242 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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MitchT said:
sherman said:
4 months is nothing.
Possibly, though a friend did suggest that petrol sitting in the tank could have "gone off" in that time.
No chance. Petrol may go off in an open container in that time but a sealed petrol tank will be fine. Also you are going to put fresh petrol in as soon as you get it.
sherman said:
If the battery is flat I will be amazed.
It's not so much a concern that it might be flat, more that if it hasn't been through the usual regular charging cycles its longevity might have been compromised.
Not that you would notice or be able to tell. A car battery lasts on average 5 years

MitchT

Original Poster:

17,112 posts

236 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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It's a four year old car (well, almost - September 2018) and my batteries have always lasted me nine years (I have a 23 year old car that I've owned from new), so it'd be interesting to see how long it goes for.

Other than the initial price I can't understand why it's been set there for so long, unless potential buyers are uncovering something nasty when they start doing due diligence.

Dan W.

1,196 posts

105 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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MitchT said:
It's a four year old car (well, almost - September 2018) and my batteries have always lasted me nine years (I have a 23 year old car that I've owned from new), so it'd be interesting to see how long it goes for.

Other than the initial price I can't understand why it's been set there for so long, unless potential buyers are uncovering something nasty when they start doing due diligence.
Simple answer is no one has bough it, We have had cars in stock before for well over 1 year plus.

Could be various reasons, wrong colour, wrong spec, you just have to judge for yourself.


Muzzer79

12,875 posts

214 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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MitchT said:
sherman said:
4 months is nothing.
Possibly, though a friend did suggest that petrol sitting in the tank could have "gone off" in that time.
hehe

No, that won't be the case. Being a car on a forecourt, it likely won't have much in it anyway, but you're looking at over 6 months of inactivity before that happens. Even then, once you've bought it, you're just going to fill it with fresh and away you go.

You're waaaay over thinking this.

Decky_Q

2,059 posts

204 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Car dealers usually keep the minimum of fuel in the cars, as a fire and theft mitigation for insurance. Also a 4 year old car will have a knock sensor and the ability to advance the timing to cope with the fuel no problem.

Ballistic

968 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Dan W. said:
Simple answer is no one has bough it, We have had cars in stock before for well over 1 year plus.

Could be various reasons, wrong colour, wrong spec, you just have to judge for yourself.
I thought dealers normally moved cars on if they haven't sold after 3 months?

What steps did you take to retail a car that's been in stock for over a year?

Dan W.

1,196 posts

105 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Ballistic said:
Dan W. said:
Simple answer is no one has bough it, We have had cars in stock before for well over 1 year plus.

Could be various reasons, wrong colour, wrong spec, you just have to judge for yourself.
I thought dealers normally moved cars on if they haven't sold after 3 months?

What steps did you take to retail a car that's been in stock for over a year?
Not all dealers do that, Most do have a stocking policy 3 months ect.. if it doesnt sell they want it gone or they have a finance plan on it and they will pay interest if its not sold.

Move it to a prime location on the display, New pics get it fully valeted and minted, facebook advert,... direct customers to it as a car of interest.

But sometimes you do all that and still nothing you just have to then decide keep or trade, we keep them, always a person will buy it eventually usually at the asking price.

vikingaero

12,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Back in the day, many BL/Rover cars would be sitting in compounds for 1-2 years!

blademansw

83 posts

248 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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vikingaero said:
Back in the day, many BL/Rover cars would be sitting in compounds for 1-2 years!
And that was before they were even painted ;-)

Old Merc

3,805 posts

194 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
MitchT said:
sherman said:
4 months is nothing.
Possibly, though a friend did suggest that petrol sitting in the tank could have "gone off" in that time.
hehe

No, that won't be the case. Being a car on a forecourt, it likely won't have much in it anyway, but you're looking at over 6 months of inactivity before that happens. Even then, once you've bought it, you're just going to fill it with fresh and away you go.

You're waaaay over thinking this.
I`ve been storing various classic`s from October to April for the last 15 years, never had a problem. I`m sure the dealer would not just let the car sit idle all that time. Start it up and move it a bit now and then?

pb8g09

3,158 posts

96 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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vikingaero said:
Back in the day, many BL/Rover cars would be sitting in compounds for 1-2 years!
No wonder so many owners complained the car was rotting when they'd only just bought it 'new'!

Om

2,168 posts

105 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Form our experience four months is fine.

My fil's car was sat untouched in his garage for around 4 years after he stopped driving and before we took it on. It needed the tyres pumping up and the battery charging and it started first turn of the key with old petrol and ran fine until I could get it to a service and its first MOT (at 7 years old).

This was a Skoda Fabia so not especially high spec but the basics are not going to suffer four months laid up (probably many cars were left that long during lockdown/s).

Old Merc

3,805 posts

194 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Om said:
Form our experience four months is fine.

My fil's car was sat untouched in his garage for around 4 years after he stopped driving and before we took it on. It needed the tyres pumping up and the battery charging and it started first turn of the key with old petrol and ran fine until I could get it to a service and its first MOT (at 7 years old).

This was a Skoda Fabia so not especially high spec but the basics are not going to suffer four months laid up (probably many cars were left that long during lockdown/s).
My mate had an old Subaru that sat in his barn for TEN years. It was covered in moss and mess. We cleared the mouse nest off the engine,fitted a battery and it fired up!!! Gave it a clean, new wiper blades,drove it to the MOT and it passed.

e21Keith

198 posts

57 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Maybe it was badly damaged in an accident and it took that long to finish the cut 'n shut properly?

Maybe it had a severe mechanical or electrical issue and they have been waiting on parts to bodge it together?

Maybe the V5 went missing and it took DVLA 4 months to pull their finger out?

Maybe a contested Finance Repo?

But seriously 4 months of non-use is nothing to worry about.

griffter

4,143 posts

282 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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If it’s got stop/start it’ll probably have a GFM (or whatever they’re called) battery with a “management system”. Not your typical cheap lead acid job, they can be £500+.
Make sure the warranty covers the battery if you do buy…