!! Selling my car - can bank transfers be reversed?
!! Selling my car - can bank transfers be reversed?
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wax lyrical

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1,053 posts

269 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Guys - would appreciate some advice. I could be selling my car this afternoon - cheap BMW. Advertised on Autotrader yesterday. There's a foreign guy who wants to buy it ASAP and then ship it back to Romania. He first offered cash but now says he's happy to make a bank transfer (which I would prefer as cash could be counterfeit).

But could the bank transfer be reversed after he takes my car?

Thanks

BenB91

371 posts

99 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Call your bank to confirm, but I don't think so.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

91 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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https://fmpglobal.co.uk/blog/how-long-do-bacs-paym...

There are different types of 'transfer'.... speak to your bank, as advised above

I suggest making sure there is some signed paperwork to back up the transaction and the name of the buyer on that matches the name on the transfer.

Edited by Canon_Fodder on Friday 6th May 11:56

Oilchange

9,677 posts

288 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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BenB91 said:
Call your bank to confirm, but I don't think so.
Ha! Hilarious.

When was the last time you tried that?

PistonTim

710 posts

167 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Are you mad?

Screams of a scam.

clockworks

7,485 posts

173 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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wax lyrical said:
Guys - would appreciate some advice. I could be selling my car this afternoon - cheap BMW. Advertised on Autotrader yesterday. There's a foreign guy who wants to buy it ASAP and then ship it back to Romania. He first offered cash but now says he's happy to make a bank transfer (which I would prefer as cash could be counterfeit).

But could the bank transfer be reversed after he takes my car?

Thanks
If he's offering to pay with cash, that must mean he's willing to meet you in person to pay you?

Just arrange to meet him at your local bank, where he can hand you the cash at the counter, and you can both watch the cashier count it and credit it to your account. Rules out any potential for fakes.

I did this with a new Rolex purchase, where I paid the seller at my bank, after we both collected the watch from the authorised dealer.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

91 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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When I bought a new car recently from a main dealer they insisted on the money being transferred the day before I collected the car.

This is perhaps related to the blog post in the link I posted above. Where BACS transfers can be reversed, this can only be done on the day they're made (day 1)

SuperPav

1,320 posts

153 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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On my banking app it clearly shows if money has been transferred to my account (i.e. not pending, it's IN my account), at which point it can't be reversed by the other party. I'd be happy enough with that, although personally would probably take the cash as it'd get used to pay builders!

Signed receipt + photo of transaction, and I wouldn't worry about it.

I had a guy buy a old BMW sight unseen, said he'd show up at 8pm Friday to pick it up to send it to Lithuania. At 7:45 he came, took one look at the car, asked for the keys and V5, gave me all the cash and was off. It was going on a truck with 5 others that weekend. Foreign buyer with plans to export the car is not necessarily dodgy or scam - it's big, legitimate, business as our used cars, particularly premium brands at higher mileages, are *very* cheap compared to mainland europe.

georgeyboy12345

4,569 posts

63 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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clockworks said:
If he's offering to pay with cash, that must mean he's willing to meet you in person to pay you?

Just arrange to meet him at your local bank, where he can hand you the cash at the counter, and you can both watch the cashier count it and credit it to your account. Rules out any potential for fakes.
Do this. If he’s dodgy then no way will he go to a bank

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

1,053 posts

269 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Thanks Guys. smile Much appreciated!

Muzzer79

12,912 posts

215 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
When I bought a new car recently from a main dealer they insisted on the money being transferred the day before I collected the car.

This is perhaps related to the blog post in the link I posted above. Where BACS transfers can be reversed, this can only be done on the day they're made (day 1)
I had to do the same (Pay the day before collection)

I was informed that this was due to some transfers taking up to 24 hours to show in the recipients bank (they wouldn't release the car without cleared funds) rather than the possibility of it being able to be reversed.

Previous

1,644 posts

182 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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A few years ago I had a guy pay cash directly into my branch for a c32 he purchased from me.

This method assumes you can actually find a branch, of course!

Wills2

29,281 posts

203 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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faster service payments can't be reversed, if he is using that

Ivor Saw

15 posts

52 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Oilchange said:
BenB91 said:
Call your bank to confirm, but I don't think so.
Ha! Hilarious.

When was the last time you tried that?
I'm with Nationwide. Not only can I call them, I can call my local branch and they pick up the phone! The Nationwide is woke, like so many other companies, but I love that I can speak to the staff at the tiny branch a mile away (which has just three staff).

jvr

789 posts

275 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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Yes it can be reversed!
The bank didnt trust its own security.Went into my bank and next day it went back, nobody told me. Screamed and shouted but made no difference and car was over a hundred miles away. It got sorted only because the guy used an alternative bank, truly shocking by the bank should have sued..

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

52 months

Friday 6th May 2022
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As above faster payments cannot be reversed

Oceanrower

1,324 posts

140 months

Saturday 7th May 2022
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PistonTim said:
Are you mad?

Screams of a scam.
Hmmm. Guy wants to buy a car so offers cash then a bank transfer.

Yep. Obviously a scam…

Jesus! What do you want him to do? Leave his first born as a deposit?

Edited by Oceanrower on Saturday 7th May 00:23

anonymous-user

82 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
When I bought a new car recently from a main dealer they insisted on the money being transferred the day before I collected the car.
I was asked to BACS the payment 48 hrs before the car would be released when I bought from a dealer in Feb.

anonymous-user

82 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Mrs spoon is Romanian. She likes paying in cash and likes being paid in cash.


JS2808

194 posts

113 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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I was always told couldn't be reversed, then I bought my 370z privately and transferred the guy the money. I left with the car when the money showed in his account. Next morning I had loads of missed calls and texts off him, my bank had somehow reversed the money as they thought it was fraud.

Obviously all sorted after I spoke to banks fraud team but understandably the seller was very stressed.