£20k ish - family but sensible but fun….

[donblako]

Hi all,

Looking to sort 2nd car. Have xc90 so don’t need nothing big, have 3 kids so the one in a million time I’ll have all 5 of us in the car we need to be able to fit so saloon makes sense.

What is the best value for sporty ish, nice interior and technology.

Was looking at XE, 4 series gc, etc…. Any help much appreciated.

[ChrisH72]

Alfa Giulia could be worth a look.

[ZX10R NIN]

I'm going to go with a few leftfield options first.

Insignia Gransport 260 this is the more sensible option but it's a good steer with a good amount of power & they come in under budget too as well as (I'd be taking one of these over a Skoda Superb) being very spacious.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204024...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203083...

Or if you want more go & more of a drivers car the VXR Insignia especially in estate form is a great option:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202072...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201311...

The XE S 340 is another very good option & you'll get a nice one for your budget as well as a special engine:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203294...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204024...

Or the bigger XF with the same engine but the 380 version:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203284...

The VXR8 is another great option epic drivetrain that's a cracking steer too:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204164...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111099...

Giulia Veloce 280:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203043...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201171...

[donblako]

I forgot the Alfa but was worried about it being out of warranty.
Like it a lot, next job is to get the Mrs into one!

Don’t need a powerful engine as I’m more into the tech and luxury, appreciate all input so far!

[ZX10R NIN]

donblako said:

I forgot the Alfa but was worried about it being out of warranty.
Like it a lot, next job is to get the Mrs into one!

Don’t need a powerful engine as I’m more into the tech and luxury, appreciate all input so far!

The Alfa will be no less reliable than any 2.0T German offering.

[donblako]

You’ve got me looking properly now….!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204084...

[donblako]

You’ve got me looking properly now….!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204084...

[SWoll]

It's a great driving car but luxury and technology have always been considered Giulia weak points, so if that's the priority it might not be the right car for you?

[fflump]

donblako said:

I forgot the Alfa but was worried about it being out of warranty.
Like it a lot, next job is to get the Mrs into one!

Don’t need a powerful engine as I’m more into the tech and luxury, appreciate all input so far!

After summer 2018 they came with 5 year warranties. They won't be super spacious in the rear but sounds like that is not a deal breaker.

[fflump]

Also as you have the XC90, something like a CLA45 saloon is a nice sporty option

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204034...

[ZX10R NIN]

donblako said:

You’ve got me looking properly now….!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204084...

Whilst the car above is okay if you want the spec tech & power then the Veloce is the model to go for:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203043...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202142...

There are two leftfield options that are worth a look.

Infiniti Q50 35h sensible hybrid with a nice unsensible 3.5 V6 for when you want to have a bit of fun.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110098...

Or the 3.0TT Q50:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202222...

[fflump]

How often do Infinitis need to get mentioned on here that they stop being a left-field option? ;-)

[Chicken Chaser]

What's the diesel Giulia like?

[georgeyboy12345]

If you already have a big car, then you don't even need a saloon, you just need something with 5 seats. This means you can get more fun stuff

Firstly, another vote for a Giulia, though I'd go for one of these sprints over a Veloce, as they are cheaper to tax and insure. You can remap them to over 300 bhp as they have the same engine as the Veloce, just a different map.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204144...


Or, another Alfa - Giulietta 1750 TBi
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112010...


This Ford Fiesta ST still has 5 seats, I'm sure you can all squeeze in on one of those rare occasions that you need to, plus it'll be a laugh
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203113...


Likewise for this Toyota Yaris GRMN with a 1.8 supercharged motor
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203213...


These Peugeot 308 GTi's are fantastic to drive, as well as being slightly larger than the above
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202122...


Or if you want something bigger, this 508 GT is a handsome looking thing
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203223...


Staying with the Frenchies, you can't get more fun than a Megane RS Cup
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204164...


Some VW group stuff now, kicking off with this Audi S1
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111239...


VW Golf GTI Performance
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204094...


Seat Leon Cupra 300
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204124...


Skoda Octavia vRS
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204074...


Finally, BMW 440i GranCoupe
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203103...

[ZX10R NIN]

fflump said:

How often do Infinitis need to get mentioned on here that they stop being a left-field option? ;-)

they'll always be a leftfield option to the masses but maybe not to a PH Member who regularly looks at the buying guide

[Bobupndown]

VRS Octavia or Golf GT, in your preferred flavour, black pump or green pump.

[donblako]

Thanks for everyone’s input. Will update when sorted

[fflump]

ZX10R NIN said:

fflump said:

How often do Infinitis need to get mentioned on here that they stop being a left-field option? ;-)

they'll always be a leftfield option to the masses but maybe not to a PH Member who regularly looks at the buying guide

Very true-certainly got me looking them up!

A bit over-budget this one but you'd not park next to another in the supermarket.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201281...

[SWoll]

fflump said:

ZX10R NIN said:

fflump said:

How often do Infinitis need to get mentioned on here that they stop being a left-field option? ;-)

they'll always be a leftfield option to the masses but maybe not to a PH Member who regularly looks at the buying guide

Very true-certainly got me looking them up!

A bit over-budget this one but you'd not park next to another in the supermarket.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201281...

That's because no-one wants them apparently, it's the only 3.0 version for sale in the entire country out of 5 Q60's in total.

1200 miles in 5 years? £28k? Pull the other one..

[BALDER5]

ZX10R NIN said:

they'll always be a leftfield option to the masses but maybe not to a PH Member who regularly looks at the buying guide

Can you link to a review please? The ones I've seen from evo and others complain of rubbish steering and terrible ride quality.

I really like the idea of this car. I'm looking for a new larger car and was veering towards the guilia Veloce but would love to keep 6 cylinders!