Buying From BCA - traders account required
Buying From BCA - traders account required
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Gav61

Original Poster:

2 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Hi All,

Im looking to buy a Merc CLA Shooting brake around 16/17 plate for 12-14k....looks to be some decent ones going through BCA at the moment but you can only buy from them if you have a trading account and you can only get a trading account with Motor trade insurance.

Can anyone recommended a trader or website that will buy from BCA on your behalf?

SiT

1,242 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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I am not sure how much luck you will have with this, a dealer will not likely want the risk of buying something for you, sight unseen, in the event you reject it and they are stuck with it. BCA will sell to the public however at present it is online sales only due to Covid which I find a bit weird - i can sit in a cinema with 200 other people for nearly 3hrs and watch James Bond but can't stand in an auction hall??

You may be better to befriend a local independent and have a chat with them and sound them out, they might be prepared to do it but realise unless something is wrong/mis-described you can't reject it so your buying it whatever. Other than that wait until the halls open again which can't be that far away................can it?????

Si


123DWA

1,436 posts

132 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Gav61 said:
Hi All,

Im looking to buy a Merc CLA Shooting brake around 16/17 plate for 12-14k....looks to be some decent ones going through BCA at the moment but you can only buy from them if you have a trading account and you can only get a trading account with Motor trade insurance.

Can anyone recommended a trader or website that will buy from BCA on your behalf?
Have you looked at what they've been making in the auctions at the moment? I would've thought something like that would be making £1500 more than CAP clean.

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Be much cheaper and easier buying from a dealer.

Most cars in BCA and Mannheim are getting up to 25% over Cap clean and this looks set to continue for some considerable time.

BCA won't reopen to physical sales although Mannheim have 3 sites open and are intending more.

Gav61

Original Poster:

2 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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I did wonder if the price going through BCA would be higher, but Ive seen some dealers who have obviously brought them from BCA (use the same pictures from BCA, with the "White office background') to sell on Autotrader for around £14-£15k so they must be getting them cheaper.

Ive been googling 'Trade Buying Service' and can see a few companies offering this service, but am a little wary after reading what happened with flipping cars etc.

Has anyone used SVS Cars or auctionbuyers4u and had any decent experience with them?

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Gav61 said:
I did wonder if the price going through BCA would be higher, but Ive seen some dealers who have obviously brought them from BCA (use the same pictures from BCA, with the "White office background') to sell on Autotrader for around £14-£15k so they must be getting them cheaper.

Ive been googling 'Trade Buying Service' and can see a few companies offering this service, but am a little wary after reading what happened with flipping cars etc.

Has anyone used SVS Cars or auctionbuyers4u and had any decent experience with them?
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mpj88

7 posts

135 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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Did you have any joy with this?

I've been considering the same thing and seen a few cars go through which I haven't be able to have access to.

There's talks of BCA never opening their doors again to the general public.

Does seem a shame that you cant skip out that middle man and the extra additional cost.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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There was a chap in the Midlands who offered this service but he ran into some ...er... financial difficulties which was flipping disappointing for his customers

Mr Tidy

31,233 posts

156 months

Wednesday 13th October 2021
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I have a mate who has a BCA account, and knows someone who works at Blackbushe.

But he hasn't bought anything from them for quite a while as hammer prices seem way too high!

When he was looking for a Boxster for a relative he bought one privately much cheaper than the one he had seen at BCA.

bennno

15,227 posts

298 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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I looked at this and deemed it too high risk as anybody willing to buy wanted full cash in account.google flipping cars.

Although I’d bought several cars from bca as a private buyer pre pandemic it’s now very difficult to get a trade account with them, I do have a Mannheim account, however prices are way over private purchase levels due to scarcity and without viewing risks are high.

bennno

15,227 posts

298 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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Not all are doing that but i've tried buying cars from Manheim that even excluding the fee have sold for more than you can buy one from a franchise dealer on autotrader. Very few bargains to be had.

Market has to crash at some point....

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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No chance of a crash. And for a long time too.

Both Mannheim and BCA just posted their accurate market reports and I have posted these on the used car thread.

Quite remarkable how strong the market is still going into October and most think prices will continue rising for a considerable time to come too.

Average prices are now over 40% more expensive on average than 12 months ago!.

t400ble

1,804 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Gav61 said:
Ive been googling 'Trade Buying Service' and can see a few companies offering this service, but am a little wary after reading what happened with flipping cars etc.

Has anyone used SVS Cars or auctionbuyers4u and had any decent experience with them?
Whats happened to flipping cars?

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Its flopped.

bennno

15,227 posts

298 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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t400ble said:
Whats happened to flipping cars?
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-stories/consumer-...

francesco.mosca

3 posts

135 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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Hi guys, I am looking to buy again at Auction! Bought in the past a few cars at BCA/Manheim with Chris (flipping cars)....shame he went bust and lost customers money.

It seem someone is still offering the service...…might be still Chris from the address
https://carauctionbuyingservice.co.uk/

perhaps best autotrader privately? I am looking to by something nearly new (max 2 year max 8000 miles) so BCA and Manheim seems a good place but without registration cannot verify prices. Should be 2000-3000 less than forecourt but many dealers sell their retuned leased cars so they can be quite cheap.

I feel I might be able to register as a trader but the cost of trade insurance and the highest fees due to low volumes will mean the car might be cheaper at the dealer!

I also have a friend that is a dealer but does not have an account with BCA. I could work with him to open an account but still perhaps not worth for one/two cars....

Any experience/suggestion?

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Monday 11th December 2023
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Just buy from a dealer.

You will have far more protection and it will be far easier.

Do you seriously want the potential hassle for a small saving?

Trevor555

5,404 posts

113 months

Monday 11th December 2023
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francesco.mosca said:
It seem someone is still offering the service...…might be still Chris from the address
https://carauctionbuyingservice.co.uk/
You get a copy of the auction house invoice?

That'll be invoiced to the trade account holder, not you.

That means the indemnity that the auction house provide will only apply to the account holder.

What will Carauctionservices say if you have to return the car? Or have an outstanding finance issue with the car?



Rob 131 Sport

4,839 posts

81 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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When I was in my teens I’d often buy cars from auction as I was quite car savvy. I continued to buy a few into my late 20’s that were 3 year old ex fleet cars from BCA. A 94 Cavalier 2.0 GLS, 96 Vectra 2.0 CDX and 99 BMW 318i spring to mind. I also bought a number of 3 year old cars from BCA for the wife. I made some very useful savings and enjoyed the experience.

However I found moving into the 00’s the fee’s for private buyers increased significantly and I tended to buy 6 month old cars from dealers.

I do still miss the auction experience although I’m not sure the savings are there for private buyers.

zek

125 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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francesco.mosca said:
Hi guys, I am looking to buy again at Auction! Bought in the past a few cars at BCA/Manheim with Chris (flipping cars)....shame he went bust and lost customers money.

It seem someone is still offering the service...…might be still Chris from the address
https://carauctionbuyingservice.co.uk/

perhaps best autotrader privately? I am looking to by something nearly new (max 2 year max 8000 miles) so BCA and Manheim seems a good place but without registration cannot verify prices. Should be 2000-3000 less than forecourt but many dealers sell their retuned leased cars so they can be quite cheap.

Any experience/suggestion?
He didn't go bust, he simply kept customers money and spent it on houses and cars.