e400d all All-Terrain ?
e400d all All-Terrain ?
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jason61c

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Friday 5th February 2021
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I really wanted a land cruiser, however the new ones are circa £55k and I can't afford that. Considered a defender(worry about a JLR product), then I've seen this

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202101198...

it'll pull a heavy trailer fine, prob be a better place to sit on the motorway, while actually looking like very good value?

it'd replace a 640d gran coupe, which I love, however I'm constantly getting nagged at as its not ideal with 3 kids and a dog.

ZX10R NIN

30,480 posts

153 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Great pick & sounds good for what you need the drivetrain is very good, they're a rare car too.

jason61c

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ZX10R NIN said:
Great pick & sounds good for what you need the drivetrain is very good, they're a rare car too.
As a man in the know, would you say that's a sensible price?

ZX10R NIN

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Friday 5th February 2021
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jason61c said:
As a man in the know, would you say that's a sensible price?
There are so few for sale it comes down to the price is what it is but I feel that's a fair price for one.

BlueJ

406 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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I was looking at these as part of my search for a 'normal' E400d estate, for what it's worth I'd say the price is fair.

jason61c

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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just seeing if I can get the px price I need to make it happen

Looking around, its the only e400d version, so it can't be a 'bad' price.

fits my love of niche also!

How are you getting on with yours?

Sheepshanks

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147 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Interesting that's it's being sold by a LandRover dealer....

jason61c

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Sheepshanks said:
Interesting that's it's being sold by a LandRover dealer....
px'd for a Range Rover apparently.

Thats going to be an expensive disappointment

Sheepshanks

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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jason61c said:
Sheepshanks said:
Interesting that's it's being sold by a LandRover dealer....
px'd for a Range Rover apparently.

Thats going to be an expensive disappointment
...bearing in mind it's already had two owners (I guess it might have been a demo) the thought that entered my head is the previous owner might have tried to do something bonkers/extreme with it.

troika

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179 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
...bearing in mind it's already had two owners (I guess it might have been a demo) the thought that entered my head is the previous owner might have tried to do something bonkers/extreme with it.
Not with those wheels / tyres, it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding. Lovely looking car though, great alternative to an A6 Allroad. You’d have to put some proper (smaller) wheels / tyres on it if you lived anywhere remotely rural, which is presumably the whole point of the ‘All Terrain’.

BlueJ

406 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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jason61c said:
How are you getting on with yours?
Not picked it up yet! Collecting Tuesday so will let you know after that. Did loads of research and they sound superb, used to have a 330d Touring and I'm looking forward to being back in a torquey 6-cyl diesel.

Probably shouldn't say this on PH (!) but it's one of my favourite engine configurations.

PushedDover

7,440 posts

81 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Looks good to me OP

As commented elsewhere, I’d be looking to do a deal on swapping rims
My last AllRoad had 19s and the winter or CrossClimates were £100 a corner
The current AllRoad came with 20s
Tyre choice (if needing it to be a foul weather or mud car) are tough and fricking expensive.
£250 a pop essentially


Good car that

jason61c

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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I live I the south west, so it’s just wet! The field it collect and drop a trailer in is normally fairly smooth, no need for winter tyres.

I’ve just realised they’ve dropped these from the 2021 lineup. Guess they didn’t sell enough?

jason61c

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troika said:
Not with those wheels / tyres, it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding. Lovely looking car though, great alternative to an A6 Allroad. You’d have to put some proper (smaller) wheels / tyres on it if you lived anywhere remotely rural, which is presumably the whole point of the ‘All Terrain’.
The point of the 4wd is for all the standing water and rutted Devonshire country lanes, bit of driving across a field, while being a nice place to sit on the motorway

anonymous-user

82 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Almost certainly an ex-demo car with that reg and black/black spec at that time. Decent car, decent engine, decent price.

Big enough for the family, is pretty bulletproof.

troika

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179 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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jason61c said:
troika said:
Not with those wheels / tyres, it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding. Lovely looking car though, great alternative to an A6 Allroad. You’d have to put some proper (smaller) wheels / tyres on it if you lived anywhere remotely rural, which is presumably the whole point of the ‘All Terrain’.
The point of the 4wd is for all the standing water and rutted Devonshire country lanes, bit of driving across a field, while being a nice place to sit on the motorway
If you live where there are rutted country lanes, those alloys will be smashed to pieces in no time. Those tyres won’t have a hope in hell across a wet field.

Roger Irrelevant

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141 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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troika said:
Sheepshanks said:
...bearing in mind it's already had two owners (I guess it might have been a demo) the thought that entered my head is the previous owner might have tried to do something bonkers/extreme with it.
Not with those wheels / tyres, it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding. Lovely looking car though, great alternative to an A6 Allroad. You’d have to put some proper (smaller) wheels / tyres on it if you lived anywhere remotely rural, which is presumably the whole point of the ‘All Terrain’.
This is something that annoys me a bit - I'm a big fan of the jacked-up 4wd estate format but it's becoming increasingly difficult to find one without wheels that are just a bit too big for actual off-road stuff. Obviously nobody buys one to go rock crawling but even the rough shooting tracks that I drive on regularly would knacker 19s on low profile rubber. The 18s on my XC70 with a 50 profile are borderline and I'm considering downsizing when new tyres are due. Still, I understand that this is quite a niche complaint and I bet the E400d AT is a great car, in fact it's got me looking at the C class version now.

jason61c

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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troika said:
If you live where there are rutted country lanes, those alloys will be smashed to pieces in no time. Those tyres won’t have a hope in hell across a wet field.
I beg to differ, based on experience.

I'm not looking to drive over pot holes like I would in a military spec g-wagon, just more talking about the odd road with a bit of standing water, couple of wheels on a grassy verge.

I can get a 'normal' 2wd civic estate in the field I need to when wet, so this would be better.

troika

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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Roger Irrelevant said:
This is something that annoys me a bit - I'm a big fan of the jacked-up 4wd estate format but it's becoming increasingly difficult to find one without wheels that are just a bit too big for actual off-road stuff. Obviously nobody buys one to go rock crawling but even the rough shooting tracks that I drive on regularly would knacker 19s on low profile rubber. The 18s on my XC70 with a 50 profile are borderline and I'm considering downsizing when new tyres are due. Still, I understand that this is quite a niche complaint and I bet the E400d AT is a great car, in fact it's got me looking at the C class version now.
It drives me mad. We had a new A4 Allroad for a couple of years on a cheap PCH deal. The dealer was surprised that I wanted the standard 17 inch wheels and not 18’s for no extra cost. The standard summer tyres were rubbish. 50 profile was just about OK on the rutted lanes but shredded a few tyres and punctures in hedge cutting seasons.

Even Subaru have gone down the big alloy route. I’d say the standard wheels / tyres are not fit for purpose on a vehicle with 220mm ground clearance and a decent awd system. I changed the tyres on my new one to Yokohama GO15 (18 inch, 55 profile) and it’s a different car (brilliant).

The Merc looks a cracking car and possibly quite capable with the right wheels / tyres. I realise this is only an issue for those who need to use its potential abilities but if you don’t, you might as well buy the standard version.

ZX10R NIN

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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Thee ride is good & grip in a field will be fine too OP it's a good car, they've only dropped it in the UK, I personally think the marketing dept dropped the ball on this as not many knew these existed.