Ten year old Merc E350 - Diesel or Petrol
Ten year old Merc E350 - Diesel or Petrol
Author
Discussion

Hairymonster

Original Poster:

1,673 posts

133 months

Tuesday 1st December 2020
quotequote all
A mate wants to buy a Merc E-class coupe from about 2010-2012 and is trying to decide whether to go petrol or diesel.

I said I would probably go for petrol because diesels have issues with DPF's, DMF's, injectors etc. though obviously economy won't be as good.

SO I guess it's the 3 litre V6 turbo diesel or the 3.5 litre V6 petrol.

I don't know much about these cars, so thought it worth throwing this open to the forum.

What's best out of these fuel choices?

Are there lots of other problems we should be aware of, and if so, what are they? The cars are 2-3 owners and have about 50k miles on them.

Is there major expenditure coming up?

Cheers - HM

ZX10R NIN

30,496 posts

153 months

Tuesday 1st December 2020
quotequote all
The 3.0d is very reliable & will eat up the miles with ease, it all depends on how many miles your friend will be doing per year?

Inspectorclueso

787 posts

280 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
I have a 2011 350 CDI estate and 350 CDI cab 2013 model.. The diesel is a good engine, loads of torque, suits the estate well, I'll go petrol though next time on cab or coupe that I replace the Cab with at some stage.

As per previous comment, depends on mileage and usage I would say. You'll also find it harder to find a petrol model I imagine as so many were diesels at that point.

My estate is on 103k, overall been reliable but watch out for the oil coiler and turbo seals a weaker point on the diesel, mine were done, cost around £700, most of which is labour to get access to change them in the V of the engine. I dont know about any issues on the petrol. I've had no DPF issues.

JimBR

24 posts

127 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
I would echo the above. I traded in my 350 cdi coupe on 174k, did 20k in 2 years with no problems other than 2 rear calipers which were sticky - just wear and tear.

It did have the oil cooler seals done before I bought it, ~ a days labour I believe so expensive even at an independent.

Didn’t have any dpf problems and it was fantastic on the motorway, would cruise at license losing speeds and 40+mpg was easily achievable.

Walter Sobchak

5,739 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
Personally I’d pick the 350 CDI, that engine is an absolute peach and overall very reliable, it’s also pretty frugal and quick.

Monkeylegend

29,090 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
Good luck finding a petrol, they are like hens teeth.

Check for timing chain noise on start up with the M276 petrol engine, caused by an oil feed issue resulting in prematurely worn chains.

Mercedes uprated the chain tensioners and installed new check valves to solve the issue.

Both lovely cars though. The diesel will be cheaper to buy almost certainly, the petrol hold their values well because of scarcity.

ZX10R NIN

30,496 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
The 350 issues were sorted from 58 plates onward's so the E Coupe is clear of this issue.

Monkeylegend

29,090 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
ZX10R NIN said:
The 350 issues were sorted from 58 plates onward's so the E Coupe is clear of this issue.
There were still problems with the later 3.5 and 3.0 V6 petrol engines up to 2013 or so. This affected the early E400's and Mercedes faced issues in the USA from unhappy owners.

This is a different problem from the balance shaft issues of the earlier 350's you are probably referring to .

Edited for to many "issues"

Edited by Monkeylegend on Wednesday 2nd December 21:49

ZX10R NIN

30,496 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
Not seen any issues with cars I've supplied to owners & know of a CLS400 we supplied that's now at 105k with no issues, my 500 has been bulletproof.

Monkeylegend

29,090 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
ZX10R NIN said:
Not seen any issues with cars I've supplied to owners & know of a CLS400 we supplied that's now at 105k with no issues, my 500 has been bulletproof.
It affected cars up to 2013/14 with the M276 engine and was more prevalent in the States as they have a preference for petrol over diesel.

A quick google re M276 reliability issues will tell you all you need to know. I did a lot of research when I was thinking of getting an E400 of that era and was grateful I did smile

ZX10R NIN

30,496 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
Different engine to the M276 the 3.0TT engine in the 400 is different, with the 350's I haven't yet had someone have a (to my knowledge) 2009 3500 V6 have issues yet.

Walter Sobchak

5,739 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
I was looking at an E Coupe a while back but went for an Audi A5 instead, both really good cars just preferred the looks and interior of the Audi a bit more, in terms of performance and economy there’s nothing in it.
If I were going to get a cab instead of a coupe though I’d go with the E Class, just looks better, the A5 doesn’t look right as a cab or a 4 door imo.

Swoxy

2,842 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
Had a 350 CDI Convertible.

Fantastic engine, quick and refined - had a problem with the £18 turbo intake seal which ended up costing me over £1,000.

Might have been picked up had I serviced it at a specialist instead of DIY.

Get COMAND-APS NTG2.5 instead of NTG4 and try to get leather instead of Artico.

The only car which I couldn't pull away from looked exactly the the same, I was thoroughly confused until I saw the twin exhausts and when I caught up realised it was the V8, 5.5 l, 383 bhp E500.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
quotequote all
It’s a shame the E420 CDI never made it to the U.K. V8 TT TDI big block.

maz8062

3,879 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd December 2020
quotequote all
If it were me I’d go for the petrol, purely on the basis that diesels of that age will eventually get the ULEZ treatment, if London is anything to go by.

I think that age car has the M272 engine, which is rated at 272bhp and would be ULEZ compliant.

W201_190e

12,738 posts

241 months

Friday 4th December 2020
quotequote all
Check the rear subframe. Quite a few ten year old Mercedes are failing MOT's on them.