"No traders"
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Trackdayer

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1,090 posts

69 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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I've just seen somebody selling a car on eBay who says "No traders, private buyer only"

Whats the likely reason behind that?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,984 posts

263 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Because they only want to sell to private buyers, not traders. biggrin

dundarach

6,194 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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They think they'll sell it to a nice old lady, rather than a nasty car dealer who might ask difficult questions.


steveo3002

11,200 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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trying to avoid mike brewer types that will pester for 75% off?

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

291 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Odd thing to put, money is money.

stevemcs

10,251 posts

121 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Always odd given a trader will turn up, be insured and will send the money without hesitation.

Trackdayer

Original Poster:

1,090 posts

69 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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steveo3002 said:
trying to avoid mike brewer types that will pester for 75% off?
So surely a better line would be "no offers"

The Rotrex Kid

34,640 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Some people just really, really, really don’t like cat dealers/car salesmen. There’s enough evidence of that on PH! hehe

Honestherbert

592 posts

175 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Because car traders generally offer much, much lower than advertised "because ive got to make a margin on it" like that is the sellers problem, they fumnily enough don't like to be knocked down much themselves! The same as a lot of traders when using mechanics/bodyshops always use the line "I havent got much in this one" when asking for a quote. If they never had much in anything then they wouldn't be making a living!

Not all traders are like this but a lot are hence the reputation.

littlebasher

3,954 posts

199 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Yeah, don't see it as much these days, but in the 90's when most cars got sold through the Freeads or Autotrader you used to see "no traders" and "no canvassers" all the time.

In my experience, anyone in the trade buying cars out of the Freeads, were guaranteed to be a nightmare to deal with. Nitpicking over the smallest things and then bidding you so low, even Mike Brewer would blush.

Wagonwheel555

909 posts

84 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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My experience is that traders haggle more than private buyers.

We recently sold our 523i F10, only wanted £7k for it and someone from London (we live in Kent) agreed to come and look at it and offered £6500 over the phone beforehand. Agreed and said I wouldn't drop a penny lower. He got there and you could tell he was a trader from a mile off despite swearing blind he wasn't. I couldn't care less what he does with it as long as I get the money but he had the cheek to drop another £100 once he got there.

I said no initially and held out for like 30 mins of him going on but he knew and I knew that I wasn't going to refuse and potentially have to deal with time wasters for £100 so I agreed. Its £100 more in his pocket when he bangs it for sale at £8.5k that afternoon.

You can usually tell the private ones from the traders and I find the traders are willing to low ball and haggle far more.

sandman77

3,335 posts

166 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Wagonwheel555 said:
My experience is that traders haggle more than private buyers.

We recently sold our 523i F10, only wanted £7k for it and someone from London (we live in Kent) agreed to come and look at it and offered £6500 over the phone beforehand. Agreed and said I wouldn't drop a penny lower. He got there and you could tell he was a trader from a mile off despite swearing blind he wasn't. I couldn't care less what he does with it as long as I get the money but he had the cheek to drop another £100 once he got there.

I said no initially and held out for like 30 mins of him going on but he knew and I knew that I wasn't going to refuse and potentially have to deal with time wasters for £100 so I agreed. Its £100 more in his pocket when he bangs it for sale at £8.5k that afternoon.

You can usually tell the private ones from the traders and I find the traders are willing to low ball and haggle far more.
You should have held out. He traveled an hour to see the car and still wanted to buy it once he had seen it. There was no way he was going to leave without it.

omniflow

3,816 posts

179 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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littlebasher said:
Yeah, don't see it as much these days, but in the 90's when most cars got sold through the Freeads or Autotrader you used to see "no traders" and "no canvassers" all the time.

In my experience, anyone in the trade buying cars out of the Freeads, were guaranteed to be a nightmare to deal with. Nitpicking over the smallest things and then bidding you so low, even Mike Brewer would blush.
No canvassers was a totally different thing. In the bad old days, canvassers were people who would ring you up, ask about the car you had for sale, and then try to persuade you to advertise that car in whichever publication they were representing. Extremely annoying

scorcher

4,117 posts

262 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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sandman77 said:
Wagonwheel555 said:
My experience is that traders haggle more than private buyers.

We recently sold our 523i F10, only wanted £7k for it and someone from London (we live in Kent) agreed to come and look at it and offered £6500 over the phone beforehand. Agreed and said I wouldn't drop a penny lower. He got there and you could tell he was a trader from a mile off despite swearing blind he wasn't. I couldn't care less what he does with it as long as I get the money but he had the cheek to drop another £100 once he got there.

I said no initially and held out for like 30 mins of him going on but he knew and I knew that I wasn't going to refuse and potentially have to deal with time wasters for £100 so I agreed. Its £100 more in his pocket when he bangs it for sale at £8.5k that afternoon.

You can usually tell the private ones from the traders and I find the traders are willing to low ball and haggle far more.
You should have held out. He traveled an hour to see the car and still wanted to buy it once he had seen it. There was no way he was going to leave without it.
Had a Wally travel 2 hours in thick fog last night to buy my car advertised at £600. Told him I’d sell for £500 not a penny less. Turned up at 8pm , poked around , pulled out some trade plates and went for a drive around the block.Came back and offered me £400. Told him £500. Got all usual guff and said would I meet him at £450 because he had travelled 2 hours to see it.Declined his offer as I had about 25 enquires in the space of 4 hours and thought he would gold for the sake of 50 quid. He went home empty handed, 2 hours in the fog back home. Sold it this morning for £550. Bizarre!!