No-one makes the car that I want.
Discussion
I know that there have been threads like this plenty of times before, but anyway, here’s another.
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Kent Border Kenny said:
I know that there have been threads like this plenty of times before, but anyway, here’s another.
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Audi RS6 Avant.I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Or grow up and buy a FFRR.
Louis Balfour said:
Kent Border Kenny said:
I know that there have been threads like this plenty of times before, but anyway, here’s another.
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Audi RS6 Avant.I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Or grow up and buy a FFRR.
JimSuperSix said:
Louis Balfour said:
Kent Border Kenny said:
I know that there have been threads like this plenty of times before, but anyway, here’s another.
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Audi RS6 Avant.I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Or grow up and buy a FFRR.
Kent Border Kenny said:
Louis Balfour said:
Audi RS6 Avant.
Or grow up and buy a FFRR.
I’m not sure that either of them gets close to the ideal of the Quattro or an updated Impreza really, or that I want to grow up.Or grow up and buy a FFRR.
But an RS6 is the closest I have driven to that brief.
I decided a long time ago, though, that the best all round car we could buy was a FFRR. So we've had a number of them.
MDMA . said:
Size wise, have you tried a C63/S AMG?
I have. I had a C63, which I really did like, but it wasn’t really “sporty.”I sold it after I was given a base model Focus in France, and realised again just how a good chassis could feel. I did like it enough that Inhave an SL63 now, but it’s a cruiser, or a dragster, now a sports car.
Kent Border Kenny said:
I know that there have been threads like this plenty of times before, but anyway, here’s another.
I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Ur Quattro sized plus 1400kg plus 4 doors ... yeah, that ain’t gonna work. Modern can’t compete with stuff from 30 years ago on weigh or size. I like fast cars, and I have a family so I also like cars with four sensible seats, four doors, and a boot.
I miss my Lotus Elise, I miss my B7 RS4, and I regret never having had a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer.
I use a Range Rover Sport for the family car, and notwithstanding the reliability issues, the fact that it is built to tackle a variety of terrains really makes me like using it. No-one does a car which comes close to giving me the various bits from these cars.
So, what I think I want is this...
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I’d pay a huge amount of money for this and keep it forever.
There’s nothing within a million miles of it, is there?
Maybe a Panamera turbo S might come close but it’s not going to deliver everything on that list.
Kent Border Kenny said:
A car on the scale of, and with the design of an Ur Quattro. Something below 1,400kg, and set up to not fall to pieces on a rough road at high speed, like Richard Hammond’s Impreza didn’t on the Top Gear special.
Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
I can see the comments below the PH First Drive now...Four doors, boot, lightweight composition, like the Impreza, but with softer touch materials, and a good stereo. Manual window winders and seat adjustment would be fine.
I then want feel-some steering, I don’t want it over-tyred, and I’d like adjustable suspension like on a McLaren.
Under the bonnet, a light, compact, modern turbocharged V8, as in a 720s, and a fast steering rack, with geometry that makes the front dart for an apex when you roll your wrists to start the wheel turning.
"Manual windows in a car of this class is ridiculous."
"That 300kg has to have come from somewhere, I wouldn't want to run one long-term. I can't see how it's possible without affecting long-term reliability."
"Just too small for anyone with a family."
"I test drove one but it's exhausting, you can't relax for a moment without it veering off to one side. Who'd want a car you can't drive with one hand on the wheel?"
"Lateral g figures are rubbish compared to the 3 series and A4, they should put proper tyres on it."
"The engine isn't a realistic proposition for 99% of driving, you couldn't actually own one."
"Still pointless soft touch plastics and 4WD, call me when you make one sub-1200kg."
"Just felt too soft after my M Sport BMW, nowhere near sporting enough."
And then they sell about three while everyone who'd claimed to be queuing up for a car like this mysteriously decides to stick with their 15 year old remapped Saab.
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