Sub-5k future classics...

Sub-5k future classics...

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white_goodman

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4,091 posts

198 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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I enjoy the PH "Six of the Best" articles and the ensuing discussion and I would absolutely spend the money and enjoy a dream car that I've always wanted whilst it's still feasible if I could easily afford it but in the case of the last "30k future classics" article, I could barely justify that figure on a daily driver/family car, let alone a "toy". I've been driving newer, mundane stuff for the last few years due to personal circumstances but have found the sub-5k market a happy hunting ground in the past and my friends and I have enjoyed some really great cars at this price level over the years, many of which have now risen exponentially in value out of this price range.

I'm talking about stuff like Mini Coopers, 205 GTis, mk1/2 Golf GTis, mk1 MR2s, E30 325is, S14 Nissan 200SXs, Corrado VR6s, Impreza Turbos/WRXs and one friend even owned a "cheap" E30 M3 in our final year at University, which would be unthinkable today! These were all tidy and decent cars at the time of ownership, not just rusty heaps too.

The prospect of owning an interesting/desirable car that has done most of its depreciation and is never going to lose much of its value and may even appreciate in time is still very appealing. So whether it be an interesting but practical daily driver or a weekend "fun" car, which cars currently sitting at 5k or less do you think have the potential to be future classics? Cars are there to be driven and enjoyed, so I'm more interested in good cars with minimal depreciation rather than owning a "garage queen" and investing in an appreciating asset (but obviously any appreciation would be a bonus).

DanielSan

19,166 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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3.0 BMW Z4, Civic Type R, Mk3 MR2, BMW 330 Clubsport Megane R26, Focus ST225. Just a few potential modern cars that could well become classics that you can get for sub 5k.

bern

1,271 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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MK1 Audi TT.

I know they made loads but they made loads of MK1 escorts as well. You can get them for £1k. Buy 5!

swisstoni

18,125 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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bern said:
MK1 Audi TT.

I know they made loads but they made loads of MK1 escorts as well. You can get them for £1k. Buy 5!
Look cute today. Had a Teutonic austerity about them at the time.

I don’t know what the original Cayennes are going for these days but they are looking quite good today too, IMHO obvs.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

141 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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bern said:
MK1 Audi TT.

I know they made loads but they made loads of MK1 escorts as well. You can get them for £1k. Buy 5!
Agreed. Timeless Bauhaus design means that they are a surefire future classic. I just missed out on a really good one for £3k about 18 months ago, I would think that would be a minimum for one worth keeping

J4CKO

42,768 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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bern said:
MK1 Audi TT.

I know they made loads but they made loads of MK1 escorts as well. You can get them for £1k. Buy 5!
Been saying this for a while but still cheap, they dont decompose like old Fords but they are massively complex in comparison.

My nominations

Leon Cupra 230
Clio 172/182
Mini R53 Cooper S
Agree on the Z4
MK5 Golf GTI
350Z
Early Boxsters
Any half decent Puma
Fiat Coupe Turbo
Fiesta ST Mk7
BMW 335i
Fiat 500 Abarth



samoht

6,266 posts

153 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Lots of great examples already.

Classic & Blob-eye Impreza Turbo / WRX / STi
Mk1 MX-5 (once 90% have rusted away, the remaining 10% will become valuable)


tomic

720 posts

152 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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BMW e92 330i with the N52 engine

ReaperCushions

6,482 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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bern said:
MK1 Audi TT.

I know they made loads but they made loads of MK1 escorts as well. You can get them for £1k. Buy 5!
There is a growing 'scene' over here (USA) for the MK1 TT. Good condition cars are already shooting up in value. An Aviator Gray 225 with low miles would already be north of $10k here.

I agree, grab them while you can.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

88 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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TF300 version of the MR2 MK3

ChrisH72

2,346 posts

59 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Toyota Celica T sport.

I had one for 3 years and it was brilliant fun. Loads of people commented on it which was interesting as it was one of the cheapest cars I ever bought. Sold mine in 2015 for 1500 quid but try finding a nice one for that money now. They're becoming quite rare and prices are on the up. Still well within a 5k budget for a minter though.

Jaaack

438 posts

143 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Pre-2000 Civics:

An EG6 in Japan or America will cost over ten grand. A reasonably nice UK VTi or previous import Jap SiR will be £5-6k here today and only going one way.



I paid £2k for this in 2014, needs restoring now but it's crazy to think I got a roadworthy one for that money now.

Scootersp

3,388 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Toyota MR2 Mk3 has to be nailed on as a nil depreciator/mild appreciator car. It's happened with all the early ones, you just need to pick a good one now use it a few thousand miles a year and I can't see it losing you anything and it shouldn't massacre you on running costs.


Walter Sobchak

5,725 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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I don’t think the original TT is a bad shout actually, I’m thinking about getting an original Boxster and not driving it much they’re likely to go up imo, the non turbo versions of the 996 have already started to.
Not so sure about the poster who said early Cayennes,although having had one they are great cars, the Turbo might?.

DanielSan

19,166 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Add the Mazda RX8 to the list also, there hasn't been a rotary Mazda yet that isn't a rare but desirable car later in life.

narbles

119 posts

80 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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BMW 130i... I'm hoping so anyway as I've got one. Not too many about. Difficult with this price range and really many of the examples while not likely to depreciate further, will take many many years to reach classic status provided the miles are low and condition is mint.

51mes

1,517 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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You could always take a punt on a Alfa GTV v6 - you should be able to pick one up for about that, the busso engine is one of the all time greats.

They do need a bit of looking after, are front wheel drive - but are great things..

S.

s m

23,509 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Saxo VTS/106 GTI - they really are that good

306 Gti-6 as well

egor110

17,358 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Ford puma .

There are currently 2500ish 1.7's on the road today and they rust like fk .

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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One point they may become future classics but doubtful in the £ value.

Buy them and enjoy them for what they are great cars but don’t plan or expect any “appreciation”.

We’re going to have 4million on the dole in a few weeks no one is really going to be wanting to spend cash on a luxury. Then EV / ban of Petrol and Diesel new sales from 2030 in U.K. is certainly going to have an impact - think ULEZ making them extremely costly to run in those areas.


However Fiat Coupe 20 V Turbo they are amazing cars