Cheap ish Barge LS460 v S v Legend

Cheap ish Barge LS460 v S v Legend

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DSLiverpool

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15,498 posts

217 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Prefer to pay £7k but can stretch to £10k for exceptional deal

Both our electric cars are coming to the end of the lease and having two no longer suits our use pattern.
Whilst I commute 12 miles in total and the Outback is perfect to do that I am aware that if visiting clients (which is starting to happen more, or suppliers / collaborators) the Outback image doesnt cut it.

I have barge history, mainly from when I was a captain of industry (!) 730d, E220, GS430, GS450, CL500 and latterly a 760i which I regret selling. Never had an Audi but the A8 just doesnt do it for me.

I have been here before the times I have nearly pulled the trigger on a Legend (4wd appeals) but I am aware they are hard to sell on and are very sensitive to diff oil that even the dealers dont understand. Upside is the Honda will be circa 60k miles the rest 100k ish

LS460 is capable but they are boring, my GS430 was boring, to me I love detail inside the car and the Lex is made for Yanks and is a touch Fisher Price to me (controls and labelling).

S350 / S500 will eat all the budget but is the most serious car of the three, leaves nothing in reserve for issues but we have a great indy on the Wirral and I think I am talking myself into it.

Dont want another 7 (Ive done over 100k in them and the dash is boring me now)

Any thoughts chaps

daemon

37,768 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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E500 on air suspension?

Cls500?

Phaeton?

DSLiverpool

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217 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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daemon said:
E500 on air suspension?

Cls500?

Phaeton?
I missed out CLS55 in my past cars, a 500 is possible - will check out.

Phaeton doesnt have bluetooth and that can be fixed but it would niggle me BUT its now on the radar.

T5GRF

2,011 posts

279 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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DS I have gone back to Infiniti again after I sold the FX. I bought a 2011 M 3.5h premium with 40k on the clock, it's totallly loaded with everything you could imagine and cost around £12k. I'm getting 35 mpg on runs and it goes like stink (still the fastest accelerating hybrid around I think)
Our Leaf goes back in 3 months and we'd like another but the cost of another is eyewatering..

DSLiverpool

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Saturday 31st December 2016
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T5GRF said:
DS I have gone back to Infiniti again after I sold the FX. I bought a 2011 M 3.5h premium with 40k on the clock, it's totallly loaded with everything you could imagine and cost around £12k. I'm getting 35 mpg on runs and it goes like stink (still the fastest accelerating hybrid around I think)
Our Leaf goes back in 3 months and we'd like another but the cost of another is eyewatering..
Is the warranty situation better now ?

Jag_NE

3,215 posts

115 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Prefer to pay £7k but can stretch to £10k for exceptional deal

Both our electric cars are coming to the end of the lease and having two no longer suits our use pattern.
Whilst I commute 12 miles in total and the Outback is perfect to do that I am aware that if visiting clients (which is starting to happen more, or suppliers / collaborators) the Outback image doesnt cut it.

I have barge history, mainly from when I was a captain of industry (!) 730d, E220, GS430, GS450, CL500 and latterly a 760i which I regret selling. Never had an Audi but the A8 just doesnt do it for me.

I have been here before the times I have nearly pulled the trigger on a Legend (4wd appeals) but I am aware they are hard to sell on and are very sensitive to diff oil that even the dealers dont understand. Upside is the Honda will be circa 60k miles the rest 100k ish

LS460 is capable but they are boring, my GS430 was boring, to me I love detail inside the car and the Lex is made for Yanks and is a touch Fisher Price to me (controls and labelling).

S350 / S500 will eat all the budget but is the most serious car of the three, leaves nothing in reserve for issues but we have a great indy on the Wirral and I think I am talking myself into it.

Dont want another 7 (Ive done over 100k in them and the dash is boring me now)

Any thoughts chaps
I wouldn't agree with the "image doesn't cut it" piece, a 7k s-class or similar can be quite dubious image wise (think kebab shop owner, low level drug dealer etc). on the contrary an outback is relatively classless and quite cool IMO.

T5GRF

2,011 posts

279 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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DS there is still no extended warranty available to private buyers. However, approved used cars bought from the Infiniti owned franchises now come with 2 years Infiniti warranty. The hybrids get a 5 year power train warranty as standard I think.

DSLiverpool

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Sunday 1st January 2017
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T5GRF said:
DS there is still no extended warranty available to private buyers. However, approved used cars bought from the Infiniti owned franchises now come with 2 years Infiniti warranty. The hybrids get a 5 year power train warranty as standard I think.
Ta - I will have a look but I wasnt looking at spending over £10k to do a 12 mile commute mainly - however .....

T5GRF

2,011 posts

279 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Excellent - you can't beat a bit of mission creep!

ali_XFR

391 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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How about an X350 XJ? They seemed to have aged well, come with bluetooth and sat nav. The ivory leather and black (ash?) veneer interior is a very pleasant place to be. Nothing more sinister than an old black Jag imo. The 4.2 V8 is very reliable. Only niggle with mine was air suspension compressor but a decent indie wouldn't be too pricey. I'm sure a 400 bhp R would be in your budget...
V8 sport: (basically a non superchanged R)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
R:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

176 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Why doesn't an A8 do it for you? It is basically a Phaeton... and a bargain.

£10k S class = a ticking bomb IMO.

Lexus will go around and no one will give you a second look, not sure if you want that if you are like most Wirralites :P

LasseV

1,765 posts

148 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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twoblacklines said:
Why doesn't an A8 do it for you? It is basically a Phaeton... and a bargain.

£10k S class = a ticking bomb IMO.

Lexus will go around and no one will give you a second look, not sure if you want that if you are like most Wirralites :P
And an Audi a8 is car which people notice? It looks like an audi a6.... Lexus would be my choice.

DSLiverpool

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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Still undecided, having 2.5 new and loss making business's hovers over me as once they start to deliver the budget can multiply so hanging on for now.
Went to see a PHer we did some work for last week with a nice Bentley supersport outside, then I went to get some home automation kit and another Bentley !! My outback felt a bit low rent.

twoblacklines

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176 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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LasseV said:
And an Audi a8 is car which people notice? It looks like an audi a6.... Lexus would be my choice.
Yeah exactly everyone thinks it is an Audi not a Toyota.

Where he lives things like that are important.

DSLiverpool

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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twoblacklines said:
Yeah exactly everyone thinks it is an Audi not a Toyota.

Where he lives things like that are important.
Birkenhead ! ;-)

Trabi601

4,865 posts

110 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Lexus LS hybrid? Justin King used to have one when he was running Sainsbury's. Looked discrete and I believe they're bloody rapid - for a 12 mile commute, probably stupidly economical.

Or go silly and get some kind of Japanese import. There are some quite silly barges in Japan - such as the Toyota Crown.

Personally, though, I'd be looking at a 7-series.

DSLiverpool

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Lexus LS hybrid? Justin King used to have one when he was running Sainsbury's. Looked discrete and I believe they're bloody rapid - for a 12 mile commute, probably stupidly economical.

Or go silly and get some kind of Japanese import. There are some quite silly barges in Japan - such as the Toyota Crown.

Personally, though, I'd be looking at a 7-series.
Had a 730d company car and a 760i swb that I should never ever have sold but under warranty it had £5k in one year under warranty

twoblacklines

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176 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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DSLiverpool said:
Birkenhead ! ;-)
I already have your address.

Impressed by it, btw wink

Ilovejapcrap

3,310 posts

127 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Am I the only one liking the Honda legend ?