What is this 190e worth?

[Combustion29]

Hey all,

I'm going to look at a 190e next month, private sale on for £3800. Its not a particularly interesting spec just a 2.0 however it looks great! All black, leather interior, amg body kit and only 95k miles on the clock and 1 owner from new. Decent trim with elec sunroof, air con

Assuming rust free, what do you think it's worth? It's not got original alloys and only gets driven a mile once per month (owner is very old). I'm thinking closer to 2k

Thanks in advance

[KevinCamaroSS]

30+ years old? I would be thinking in the high 3 figure range, not 4 figures at all.

[dibblecorse]

I reckon if that providence is true then it's at least a 3k car, if it's truly rust free and all operating as it should then I think it's not unreasonable at close to the asking price, these are becoming more sought after and a set of correct period rims shouldn't be too hard to find.

Personally at 2k you're looking at the wrong car.

[battered]

I agree with the comment above about the wrong car. The interest in "classics" of all shapes and sizes means that anything over 20 years old is worth more than it should be.

If I wanted a £2k Merc I'd be looking at the best late 90s version I could lay my hands on.

A "classic" is an old car that you pay too much money for, remember?

[Bdevo3]

If it's rust free and we'll maintained I would have no problem paying 3 to 3.5k for it.

[Easternlight]

Just ask in here:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

The font of knowledge on all things old and Mercedes!!

Edited by Easternlight on Wednesday 28th December 19:08

[SuperHangOn]

battered said:

If I wanted a £2k Merc I'd be looking at the best late 90s version I could lay my hands on.

The absolute worst tactic in buying an old Mercedes!

That spec on a such an early car is very rare. The price sounds pretty fair, I would haggle it down on the basis of the nasty body kit and wheels. The earlier cars had a single row timing chain rather the duplex on later cars so factor that in.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Wednesday 28th December 20:09

[Combustion29]

Thanks for all the input. There are becoming collectable but almost 4k it just seems steep. If it was a 2.6, I wouldn't question it.

The unoriginal features are prob a good haggling point as has been pointed out.

[battered]

SuperHangOn said:

The absolute worst tactic in buying an old Mercedes!

That spec on a such an early car is very rare. The price sounds pretty fair, I would haggle it down on the basis of the nasty body kit and wheels. The earlier cars had a single row timing chain rather the duplex on later cars so factor that in.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Wednesday 28th December 20:09

Why so? 15 years less corrosion and cheaper to boot sounds good to me.

[ClaphamGT3]

battered said:

SuperHangOn said:

The absolute worst tactic in buying an old Mercedes!

That spec on a such an early car is very rare. The price sounds pretty fair, I would haggle it down on the basis of the nasty body kit and wheels. The earlier cars had a single row timing chain rather the duplex on later cars so factor that in.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Wednesday 28th December 20:09

Why so? 15 years less corrosion and cheaper to boot sounds good to me.

The W202/203 C Class models weren't known as the 'corrosion class' for nothing and are generally considered to typify the Daimler Chrysler nose-dive in quality in the mid to late nineties. The W201 190 series, by contrast, were one of the best built, well engineered cars ever. The car was designed totally from scratch and was the 1st car in the world to have a $1bn r&d budget.

For this particular one, if it's solid and everything works it's worth £3-4k of anyone's money, even with the gash body kit and awful wheels

[Lagerlout]

Doesn't look like it's worth anywhere near that money to me. That bodykit doesn't look AMG either, and it also appears to have Cosworth wings on it which isn't right for that age of car. Looks messed about to me. Better to get a nice bog standard one.

[Combustion29]

Sorry I meant cosworth not amg. Iv compared to photos of cosworth 190e's for sale and it seems the same. May just look different in black as you tend to lose the lines a little. I actually really like the kit, the stock 190e body is really dull to me. I'm surprised at the opinions here as would you call the same kit on a genuine cosworth 'gash'

[Trabi601]

I'm with the OP - wouldn't want to pay more than £2k for it.

Completed / sold eBay listings show not much selling above £2k.

This was a £3250 car - with proper AMG kit and AMG monobloc (I think?) wheels.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-0-AMG-76...

[Combustion29]

Trabi601 said:

I'm with the OP - wouldn't want to pay more than £2k for it.

Completed / sold eBay listings show not much selling above £2k.

This was a £3250 car - with proper AMG kit and AMG monobloc (I think?) wheels.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-0-AMG-76...

The one I'm looking at has a nice black leather interior. All the ones I see online seem to be cloth. Also I think the 190 looks great in black which also seems rare.

[Trabi601]

Combustion29 said:

Trabi601 said:

I'm with the OP - wouldn't want to pay more than £2k for it.

Completed / sold eBay listings show not much selling above £2k.

This was a £3250 car - with proper AMG kit and AMG monobloc (I think?) wheels.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-0-AMG-76...

The one I'm looking at has a nice black leather interior. All the ones I see online seem to be cloth. Also I think the 190 looks great in black which also seems rare.

But it also has a 3rd party body kit, really nasty wheels and questionable bodywork. It's also massively overpriced.

When you're buying a classic, little things like colour and interior upholstery sometimes have to be compromised upon to get a proper, straight car.

I think that white 190 with proper AMG kit and wheels looks very good.

[Combustion29]

Who says it's 3rd party? Could be a kit from a 2.3 cosworth

[Combustion29]

Also its pretty subjective, I personally don't like the bodykit on the white one you linked. But it's arbitrary, what we can say for sure is that it's not original and that's the issue

[s m]

The comments make me smile and you can see how different peoples interpretation of "worth" or ""value" varies in just a few comments
From 1k to 4k - now we can see how older cars prices get bid beyond our own personal limits for Car X

They are well built cars though, I'll say that - wasn't so long ago you could get a nice 2.3-16 for 4k

[Combustion29]

Trabi601 said:

Combustion29 said:

Trabi601 said:

I'm with the OP - wouldn't want to pay more than £2k for it.

Completed / sold eBay listings show not much selling above £2k.

This was a £3250 car - with proper AMG kit and AMG monobloc (I think?) wheels.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-0-AMG-76...

The one I'm looking at has a nice black leather interior. All the ones I see online seem to be cloth. Also I think the 190 looks great in black which also seems rare.

But it also has a 3rd party body kit, really nasty wheels and questionable bodywork. It's also massively overpriced.

When you're buying a classic, little things like colour and interior upholstery sometimes have to be compromised upon to get a proper, straight car.

I think that white 190 with proper AMG kit and wheels looks very good.

Just curious - what do you mean by questionable bodywork? You can't really see much just from that photo

[Trabi601]

Combustion29 said:

Just curious - what do you mean by questionable bodywork? You can't really see much just from that photo

Front wings aren't original - and could be pattern parts, as they're not very well aligned with the bonnet.