What fun interesting family car?
Discussion
Yes.... i considered an R32... 
The wife's car is leaving us soon. 2002 Lexus RX.
We have three kids, but the Lexus is dull and does only 15 mpg..
Default choice is RX400h.
Our requirements are:
Automatic (MUST)
Quite fun to drive
Looks good
FULL Leather seats (MUST)
Bluetooth
Good economy (MUST)
Low tax
Low ish mileage but anything over 90k is a definite no
4+ doors
Decent boot
Sat nav (MUST, just dont ask why)
FSH
2008 or newer
High ish driving position preferred but no Cayenne Turbo
Budget is £12000 but can stretch to £14k depending on part ex values.
We have considered:
RX400h (dull)
Focus Ecoboost estate
Any help appreciated

The wife's car is leaving us soon. 2002 Lexus RX.
We have three kids, but the Lexus is dull and does only 15 mpg..
Default choice is RX400h.
Our requirements are:
Automatic (MUST)
Quite fun to drive
Looks good
FULL Leather seats (MUST)
Bluetooth
Good economy (MUST)
Low tax
Low ish mileage but anything over 90k is a definite no
4+ doors
Decent boot
Sat nav (MUST, just dont ask why)
FSH
2008 or newer
High ish driving position preferred but no Cayenne Turbo
Budget is £12000 but can stretch to £14k depending on part ex values.
We have considered:
RX400h (dull)
Focus Ecoboost estate
Any help appreciated

Edited by allroad one on Saturday 30th July 20:10
Edited by allroad one on Saturday 30th July 20:14
Fun, highish driving position, pick one!
The Focus estate is a decent pick i'd say, i had a mk3 focus, which despite the tall gearbox and somewhat underpowered 1.6 (non turbo obviously) was a good amount of fun. If you can get a 1.6 ecoboost (or ST) estate, that would be a good amount of fun, yet incredibly practical
The Focus estate is a decent pick i'd say, i had a mk3 focus, which despite the tall gearbox and somewhat underpowered 1.6 (non turbo obviously) was a good amount of fun. If you can get a 1.6 ecoboost (or ST) estate, that would be a good amount of fun, yet incredibly practical
Maybe not in this colour & you'll have to haggle but a Focus ST Estate can be bought for the top end of your budget.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
More sensible 1.6 Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Ford Kuga
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
More sensible 1.6 Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Ford Kuga
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
ZX10R NIN said:
Maybe not in this colour & you'll have to haggle but a Focus ST Estate can be bought for the top end of your budget.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
More sensible 1.6 Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Ford Kuga
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
My wife can only drive Auto,, shame about the SThttp://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
More sensible 1.6 Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Ford Kuga
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Forgot about the Auto part.
Revised list:
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
ZX10R NIN said:
Forgot about the Auto part.
Revised list:
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
That S-Max is pretty much spot on. I had one on loan for three weeks a few years ago, and it was a very good drive for such a big old bus.
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
What is your definition of good fuel economy? Unless you do a big mileage it doesn't make a huge difference and petrol is cheaper than diesel.....
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
My old boss had 3 of these and loved them, safe in an accident too
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Not my cup of tea but very popular...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
HTH!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
My old boss had 3 of these and loved them, safe in an accident too
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Not my cup of tea but very popular...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
HTH!
ZX10R NIN said:
Forgot about the Auto part.
Revised list:
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I love the S Max more than the Kuga... 
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Oldwolf said:
What is your definition of good fuel economy? Unless you do a big mileage it doesn't make a huge difference and petrol is cheaper than diesel.....
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
My old boss had 3 of these and loved them, safe in an accident too
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Not my cup of tea but very popular...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
HTH!
The first three.... i'm afraid its an automatic no.http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
My old boss had 3 of these and loved them, safe in an accident too
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...
Not my cup of tea but very popular...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
HTH!
Reasons being:
They all do less than 15mpg real world, let alone 40
Insurance will be a pain for a woman with three kids using it for SDPBC
Tax is a pain
Too old
Liking the Jag XF though. A serious contender!!
The CLS seems a bit overpriced and not really my cup of tea either
335i Touring? Not sure it fits all the criteria, but might be a fun call.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
allroad one said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Forgot about the Auto part.
Revised list:
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I love the S Max more than the Kuga... 
Kuga Titanium X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
S Max which ticks all the boxes 200bhp Titanium X full Leather (a rarely ticked option) Nav etc
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2010 240bhp Petrol Version which uses the ST engine but it has half leather but that does mean you get air cooled seats
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
With only an £80.00 difference in tax & a 12mpg difference in favour of the diesel I'd still go for the Petrol version with fuel at a reasonable £5.14 for both types of fuel & your wife's low mileage because I say take the economy hit .
Edited by ZX10R NIN on Monday 1st August 00:00
[quote=allroad one]Yes.... i considered an R32... 
The wife's car is leaving us soon. 2002 Lexus RX.
We have three kids, but the Lexus is dull and does only 15 mpg..
Default choice is RX400h.
Our requirements are:
Automatic (MUST)
Quite fun to drive
Looks good
FULL Leather seats (MUST)
Bluetooth
Good economy (MUST)
Low tax
Low ish mileage but anything over 90k is a definite no
4+ doors
Decent boot
Sat nav (MUST, just dont ask why)
FSH
2008 or newer
High ish driving position preferred but no Cayenne Turbo
Budget is £12000 but can stretch to £14k depending on part ex values.
We have considered:
RX400h (dull)
Focus Ecoboost estate
Any help appreciated
I think your list of requirements just made it impossible for the words "fun" and "interesting" to appear in the same thread!
Unless you think a C4 Cactus is fun and interesting (I may not agree..........)!
But until you can bin the stickers in the window explaining that you have a "grandchild on board" or are powered by fairy dust it isn't looking good................!
quote]
Isn't that why most places have at least 2 trains a day, and a bus service that runs at least once a week?

The wife's car is leaving us soon. 2002 Lexus RX.
We have three kids, but the Lexus is dull and does only 15 mpg..
Default choice is RX400h.
Our requirements are:
Automatic (MUST)
Quite fun to drive
Looks good
FULL Leather seats (MUST)
Bluetooth
Good economy (MUST)
Low tax
Low ish mileage but anything over 90k is a definite no
4+ doors
Decent boot
Sat nav (MUST, just dont ask why)
FSH
2008 or newer
High ish driving position preferred but no Cayenne Turbo
Budget is £12000 but can stretch to £14k depending on part ex values.
We have considered:
RX400h (dull)
Focus Ecoboost estate
Any help appreciated

Edited by allroad one on Saturday 30th July 20:10
I think your list of requirements just made it impossible for the words "fun" and "interesting" to appear in the same thread!
Unless you think a C4 Cactus is fun and interesting (I may not agree..........)!
But until you can bin the stickers in the window explaining that you have a "grandchild on board" or are powered by fairy dust it isn't looking good................!
quote]
Isn't that why most places have at least 2 trains a day, and a bus service that runs at least once a week?

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