Lexus IS250 vs BMW 335i

Lexus IS250 vs BMW 335i

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freenote

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784 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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I've had my IS250 for a month or so now. Previously I had an E92 335i Msport.

The BMW was faster, better handling, more fun, arguably better looking, more tech, newer, lower mileage

The Lexus is more comfortable, slightly more efficient, more reliable

So why do I prefer the Lexus?
It doesn't make sense to me.

Vaud

51,714 posts

160 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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freenote said:
I've had my IS250 for a month or so now. Previously I had an E92 335i Msport.

The BMW was faster, better handling, more fun, arguably better looking, more tech, newer, lower mileage

The Lexus is more comfortable, slightly more efficient, more reliable

So why do I prefer the Lexus?
It doesn't make sense to me.
It's a brilliant, smooth engine in the Lexus. Nicely screwed together car. etc. Nice to drive.

It's like "why do I prefer my Mk 3 MX5 to an S2000, Boxster, etc". I just do, it just works at sensible speeds, etc.

trickywoo

12,178 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Are you worrying less about the next big repair bill?

freenote

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784 posts

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Friday 3rd June 2016
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Vaud said:
It's a brilliant, smooth engine in the Lexus. Nicely screwed together car. etc. Nice to drive.

It's like "why do I prefer my Mk 3 MX5 to an S2000, Boxster, etc". I just do, it just works at sensible speeds, etc.
Has my quest for ever lower 0-60 times been in vain? I remember saying maybe 10 years ago, my next car is going to be 200hp and I got a 200SX. Loved it. Then I wanted more. Now I'm happier with less.

Vaud

51,714 posts

160 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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freenote said:
Has my quest for ever lower 0-60 times been in vain? I remember saying maybe 10 years ago, my next car is going to be 200hp and I got a 200SX. Loved it. Then I wanted more. Now I'm happier with less.
Maybe, but 0-60 isn't everything vs a nicely balanced, car as a daily driver.

freenote

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784 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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trickywoo said:
Are you worrying less about the next big repair bill?
Yes, definitely. But I would love to own an old 7 series or something like today's SotW as a second car - I just clench up inside at the thought of big bills.

kambites

68,173 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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I can understand that. I've owned neither but from brief drives but the Lexus just feels more... cohesive somehow.

freenote

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784 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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I read something semi-randomly on Honest John last night that said the IS250 is probably the most reliable car on the road - I thought to myself "Is that too boring for someone in their mid 30s?"
What about all the other cars I have wanted to own and try one day, and still do want to but struggle with reliability.

Vaud

51,714 posts

160 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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The IS250 engine is remarkable, highly underrated.

Casa1862

1,075 posts

170 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Different model, I moved to the new Lexus IS300h from a BMW F30, I think it's great and much more refined than the F30 I had.

freenote

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784 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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I aspired to own a BMW for a long time. Never had anything more than "fancy trying it one day" for Lexus.
Still looking at BMW's in the classifieds.
Doesn't make any sense.

culpz

4,923 posts

117 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Lovely cars. Fully equipped with almost everything and they just don't seem to go wrong. Capable of daft mileage effortlessly without a squeak or rattle. I think i'd have one just to be different. Never been too keen on BMW's anyway. I think as an ownership proposition you can't really go wrong.

The only problem would be image (that is if you're that self conscious and care too much about what other people think) and depreciation. I think the reliability overall could offset the amount you'd lose on the car though so might not seem so bad.

I think they look good, still has RWD, nice size of saloon, heard they're surprisingly good on fuel despite the size and nature of the engine, smooth 2.5 V6, low tax (if automatic), the list goes on. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter as long as you're happy with it.

Casa1862

1,075 posts

170 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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culpz said:
Lovely cars. Fully equipped with almost everything and they just don't seem to go wrong. Capable of daft mileage effortlessly without a squeak or rattle. I think i'd have one just to be different. Never been too keen on BMW's anyway. I think as an ownership proposition you can't really go wrong.

The only problem would be image (that is if you're that self conscious and care too much about what other people think) and depreciation. I think the reliability overall could offset the amount you'd lose on the car though so might not seem so bad.

I think they look good, still has RWD, nice size of saloon, heard they're surprisingly good on fuel despite the size and nature of the engine, smooth 2.5 V6, low tax (if automatic), the list goes on. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter as long as you're happy with it.
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Lexus hold their value well, I'd say as good if not better than bmw. I was hoping to pick a NX300h after my IS but they just don't seem to drop much, might as well buy a new one.

freenote

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173 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Casa1862 said:
Different model, I moved to the new Lexus IS300h from a BMW F30, I think it's great and much more refined than the F30 I had.
How is the performance?

Bennet

2,130 posts

136 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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If only they'ed done an estate. I've still no idea what saloons are for. Family men who never need to move an object larger than a suitcase, apparently.

V8RX7

27,350 posts

268 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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freenote said:
I've had my IS250 for a month or so now. Previously I had an E92 335i Msport.

The BMW was faster, better handling, more fun, arguably better looking, more tech, newer, lower mileage

The Lexus is more comfortable, slightly more efficient, more reliable

So why do I prefer the Lexus?
It doesn't make sense to me.
You're getting old ?

freenote

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784 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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V8RX7 said:
You're getting old ?
Mid thirties. Just got in trouble with the missus for acting like a child in front of friends.
Surely that's not the answer...

ericmcn

1,999 posts

102 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Vaud said:
It's a brilliant, smooth engine in the Lexus. Nicely screwed together car. etc. Nice to drive.

It's like "why do I prefer my Mk 3 MX5 to an S2000, Boxster, etc". I just do, it just works at sensible speeds, etc.
Had a IS250 for 2 years, superb motor. I would stick my head out and say they are probably the best used petrol cars you could get. The fact they dont sell in the UK is mind boggling and just goes to show how much the public is brainwashed by German cars.

Its not terribly fast, nor exciting but its good to be driving something different from everyone else and its very very quiet and calm in the cabin. In this age of jammed traffic and idioc drivers thats a very good thing to have.

I wont go without saying the IS220D is brutal....Lexus dont make Diesels no more and learnt from it.

Casa1862

1,075 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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freenote said:
Casa1862 said:
Different model, I moved to the new Lexus IS300h from a BMW F30, I think it's great and much more refined than the F30 I had.
How is the performance?
Absolutely fine, I went from a 2.0 diesel to 2.5lt petrol hybrid but price wise the two cars about the same. On paper the bmw was quicker and better mpg, everyday driving the Lexus more usable and I think better handling, I know that'll be disputed.

The reviews all mention how poor the gearbox is, I think it's well suited to the car, a bit slow responding in Eco/std mode but in sport it goes really well, I'd say quicker 40 to 100mph than the bmw.

My f30 and Lexus were the same price, Lexus had leather interior, Xeon lights, heated seats, sat Nav, dab, auto gearbox keyless entry plus other bits I can't think of. Looking forward to hopefully an NX if I can get a good deal.

jonah35

3,940 posts

162 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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The lexus is smoother and more relaxing