Lexus IS200 Sport 03 vintage- Any good?

Lexus IS200 Sport 03 vintage- Any good?

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s3fella

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10,524 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Been looking for an "undercvover" car, nothing too shouty, reliable, either something really small and cheap to run tax insure, or potential cheaper barge motoring.

Anyway, located via a mate an 03 plate, one owner IS200 sport, 2litre straight 6 petrol. good nick, full history and can be had for a couple of grand instead of them trading it in an a new car.

Seems an ok price etc, and the car is in good nick i know, (one lady owner etc) but are they any good. I've driven this car itself once, was smooth quiet b ut not "quick" at all, brilliant stereo as I recall. But do they have any problems, expensive ones, anything to watch out for at that age and miles, or is Lexus build quality all it is cracked up to be? Are they suitably "undercover" or are they "nickable", they seem to be popular within certain demographics.

Any advice or experience gratefully received.

Ta

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I've not been in one, but I'm lead to believe they aren't the most dynamic of drives. Probably good stout cars though.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

158 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Auto or Manual?
I test drove an Auto lexus recently and it was horrible.
The box just seemed to want to drive like a granny regardless of what I wanted, even in sports mode.

neil_bmw

245 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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s3fella said:
they seem to be popular within certain demographics.

Any advice or experience gratefully received.

Ta
Popular with celebrities...



and with the ladies



Seriously though, one of my mates had one, other than being not particularly quick, it was a great car, lovely creamy smooth 6 pot. Only problem he had in the time he had it was the CD player which lexus didnt seem to be able to fix.

LayZ

1,670 posts

249 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Not driven one but I think they are known for being thirsty for just 150hp. Probably struggle to get 30mpg.

toon10

6,469 posts

164 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I looked into these a few years ago but the 200 was too underpowered for my taste and the 300 was auto only and I wanted a manual.

I'm with 300bhp/ton on this one.

schmalex

13,616 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I had one as a company car way back in 2000.

It was a lovely place to be on long drives. Absolutely silent progress, excellent stereo & loads of gadgets to play with.

It wasn't the fastest of cars on the road by a long shot and with the 6 speed manual, it felt like you were changing gear ever 2 seconds. It was a little thirsty for only 150bhp, but on balance, it was a very decent car indeed.

Unfortunately, I only had it for 6 months before an older gentleman pulled out right infront of me on a NSL road & wrote it off. On that note, it has loads of airbags & they all work really well!

RedWhiteMonkey

7,224 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I've had one but didn't keep it long, seemed very well put together and no obvious issues with mine during the time I had it. The CD player dying is a known fault and I don't think they make replacements anymore.

My main issue was fuel consumption. The overall performance of the car didn't match the shocking fuel consumption. They drive well enough but aren't as responsive as its main competitor - the BMW 3 series.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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We raced one from the lights in bristol 4 up in a rover 214. The rover won.

Other than being slow they are lovely cars, I love the instrument cluster and its lovely to drive. The Altezza is a great fun car, the is200 a sensible and comfortable car but not as sporty as it looks.


skene

2,363 posts

179 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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My old man had one and genuinely loved it. Ok so it wasn't quick, but they aren't slow, they are a tad thirsty, he used to get about 31mpg which was really good for them.

But, he said it handled really well, had easily enough power to get the tail out and with the LSD which is standard on sports really helps it put all its power down. They sound brilliant even with the standard exhaust really comfy seat, heated electrically adjustable etc, and easily room for 4 adults. As mentioned earlier the stereo is great with the 6 CD changer built in the dash. 6 speed gearbox is a short throw and feels quite sporty and that engine is quite torquey so it pulls well in the upper gears.

HTH smile

s3fella

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10,524 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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This one is a manual .

CD player is interesting. She mentioned that the CD's needed "taking out", I took it to mean that otherwise it was ready to go!! Maybe it has a fault.

Dynamics dont worry me too much, it will only do airport runs and school drop offs. Reliability wise, (cd palyer aside) are they ok?

KardioKate

1,584 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Mr Dave said:
We raced one from the lights in bristol 4 up in a rover 214. The rover won.

Other than being slow they are lovely cars, I love the instrument cluster and its lovely to drive. The Altezza is a great fun car, the is200 a sensible and comfortable car but not as sporty as it looks.
No chance. I've got one (that I'm trying to sell, hint) and it's still good for 0-60 in 9.something seconds. Engine is beautiful, lovely and quiet. Cabin is how you'd expect a lexus to be. It is thirsty however. I'm averaging 23.

s3fella

Original Poster:

10,524 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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KardioKate said:
Mr Dave said:
We raced one from the lights in bristol 4 up in a rover 214. The rover won.

Other than being slow they are lovely cars, I love the instrument cluster and its lovely to drive. The Altezza is a great fun car, the is200 a sensible and comfortable car but not as sporty as it looks.
No chance. I've got one (that I'm trying to sell, hint) and it's still good for 0-60 in 9.something seconds. Engine is beautiful, lovely and quiet. Cabin is how you'd expect a lexus to be. It is thirsty however. I'm averaging 23.
To be fair, i can beleive it! Those 214s are 105hp and weight about as much as a Lexus door!

But this is not all about speed etc. Would be nice to think on a run that an IS200 could get 35mpg, but I dont think they can....

Baryonyx

18,064 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I considered getting one once, as a sort of Japanese route into Mercedes style quality. That was something that really appealed to me. But the car being quite slow and extremely thirsty for the meagre power it delivered was enough to put me off. A real shame they couldn't do something better with that lazy engine. If I compare it to my Volvo S60's 180bhp engine, which has 5 cylinders and a low pressure turbo, it just seems outrageous that Lexus didn't do a better job with that engine. The Volvo is faster and more economical on those terms.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I've had 2 - back in about 2004 I had a 2001 car.

It was thirsty, certainly, but other than that I have no negatives about the car at all. Yes it was not the highest powered car ever, but it was a straight six, sounded good, and was adequately fast that you could enjoy it.

I really, really rated mine yes

K50 DEL

9,352 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Was a car that I really wanted to like, I love the looks of it, the interior was great, the package as a whole had promise.

However, the 2001 SE (Nav) that I ran for a while rates as a real "don't meet your heroes" moment... I don't think I've been that disappointed in the way a car drove before or since.
Can't comment on the fuel consuption and I still think the car's lovely to look at



It also had one of the nicest steering wheels I can remember, but I just couldn't live with the way it drove on a daily basis.

As far as things going wrong goes, we bought it at 12k miles and sold it at 85k miles and other than needing to have the wheels refinished, I only ever serviced it and replaced tyres etc.
Lexus reliability lived up to its reputation.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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KardioKate said:
Mr Dave said:
We raced one from the lights in bristol 4 up in a rover 214. The rover won.

Other than being slow they are lovely cars, I love the instrument cluster and its lovely to drive. The Altezza is a great fun car, the is200 a sensible and comfortable car but not as sporty as it looks.
No chance. I've got one (that I'm trying to sell, hint) and it's still good for 0-60 in 9.something seconds. Engine is beautiful, lovely and quiet. Cabin is how you'd expect a lexus to be. It is thirsty however. I'm averaging 23.
Rover214 iS 5d (99) 9.9 s 115 mph 101 bhp.

So really with RWD cars being harder to launch that probably explains it then.

All im saying is they arent fast, but the Is200 is in every way a lovely car. The is300 is even better but only automatic.

Driven an Altezza and that was a car I would love to own, not hugely powerful either but quite sporty in its own way.

s m

23,510 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I've heard that they can sometimes have a problem with tracking settings? Don't know how common that is though

TonyRPH

13,142 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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s m said:
I've heard that they can sometimes have a problem with tracking settings? Don't know how common that is though
No problem as such.

There is a well know modification to the factory settings to improve tyre wear and steering feel.


s m

23,510 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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TonyRPH said:
No problem as such.

There is a well know modification to the factory settings to improve tyre wear and steering feel.
I knew it was pretty minor and that WIM had better settings - tribute to the car that not much has come up