Don't make me agree with my wife: Range Rover or Touareg
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Baryonyx said:
Forgot those naff crapwagons, OP. Get a Landcruiser if you really want a tall, ungainly SUV.
I hear you! Problem is that for this money it needs to be refined enough to be the main car of the household and thus needs some decent waft capabilities.
One other objective is to go from 4 down to 3 or 2 cars so this one needs to multitask pretty well.
TorqueDirty said:
Baryonyx said:
Forgot those naff crapwagons, OP. Get a Landcruiser if you really want a tall, ungainly SUV.
I hear you! Problem is that for this money it needs to be refined enough to be the main car of the household and thus needs some decent waft capabilities.
One other objective is to go from 4 down to 3 or 2 cars so this one needs to multitask pretty well.
You can up-rate the sway bars if body roll is an issue.
In typical PH fashion I'm going to suggest a VWAmarok....only becausecause I've got one. It's been super reliable in 55,000 miles in 18months. It's plenty quick enough particularly on the H/T tyres on it now. 32/33 mpg and carried family all over Europe.
Back on piste I'd have the Range Rover. A TDV8 F2F is what I would have if I couldn't have a V8 supercharged.
My sister in law has a Tourag and its just not the real deal in my eyes at least.
Back on piste I'd have the Range Rover. A TDV8 F2F is what I would have if I couldn't have a V8 supercharged.
My sister in law has a Tourag and its just not the real deal in my eyes at least.
Djtemeka said:
the missus is always right! esp when she knows at least a little about cars! that leaves a "get out of jail " card for the 911 
Ah haaaa! You would think so wouldn't you but I made the huge mistake of explaining about the bore scoring / IMS issues with the 997. As a result that's now off limits. Happily the Aston Martin V8 vantage is acceptable!!! Although sadly it sure as hell ain't in combination with a 25k 4x4!
TD
aarondbs said:
In typical PH fashion I'm going to suggest a VWAmarok....only becausecause I've got one. It's been super reliable in 55,000 miles in 18months. It's plenty quick enough particularly on the H/T tyres on it now. 32/33 mpg and carried family all over Europe.
Back on piste I'd have the Range Rover. A TDV8 F2F is what I would have if I couldn't have a V8 supercharged.
My sister in law has a Tourag and its just not the real deal in my eyes at least.
Good call. The wife likes em and so do I but the dog is complaining strongly regarding his proposed seating arrangements.Back on piste I'd have the Range Rover. A TDV8 F2F is what I would have if I couldn't have a V8 supercharged.
My sister in law has a Tourag and its just not the real deal in my eyes at least.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
These are great from my experience.
Completely effortless to drive and fantastic off road - do the LR experience and you'll understand.
And of course it's the perfect middle ground between range rover and anything else...
These are great from my experience.
Completely effortless to drive and fantastic off road - do the LR experience and you'll understand.
And of course it's the perfect middle ground between range rover and anything else...
Twin2 said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
These are great from my experience.
Completely effortless to drive and fantastic off road - do the LR experience and you'll understand.
And of course it's the perfect middle ground between range rover and anything else...
Yup, on the nosey! But do they actually work all the time. No real experience of the D4 but the D3 reliability stories scare the hell out of me - my friendly LR independent warned me off them on the basis that they are ruinous to keep going. These are great from my experience.
Completely effortless to drive and fantastic off road - do the LR experience and you'll understand.
And of course it's the perfect middle ground between range rover and anything else...
Damn, they sure cover all the bases though don't they?
How much ground clearance do you need? If not too much then how about:
http://www.unityautomotive.co.uk/useddetail.aspx?u...
http://www.unityautomotive.co.uk/useddetail.aspx?u...
Justin Case said:
How much ground clearance do you need? If not too much then how about:
http://www.unityautomotive.co.uk/useddetail.aspx?u...
How much ground clearance do I need? Not much to be honest.http://www.unityautomotive.co.uk/useddetail.aspx?u...
How much do I want? That's a different story!
I'll break one of the golden PH rules and say that for this money I want something that does way more then I'll ever need it to do. That said it will need to get through a foot of snow / water / mud without breaking a sweat.
TorqueDirty said:
Yup, on the nosey! But do they actually work all the time. No real experience of the D4 but the D3 reliability stories scare the hell out of me - my friendly LR independent warned me off them on the basis that they are ruinous to keep going.
Damn, they sure cover all the bases though don't they?
Not sure how they are reliability wise but I don't see it being less reliable than a 70k L322...Damn, they sure cover all the bases though don't they?
JLR have come on leaps and bounds quality wise though, going on the independent ratings, they come just behind Porsche...
Get yourself to a LR experience day and try one out off road, it's fantastically well equipped.
OK Guys,
Man maths has been at work.
After idly perusing the classifieds I notice that for say an extra 7k I could buy one of the newer 4.4 TDV8 engined Range Rovers.
Reviews for this car are very good but is it really worth it? Guessing resale will be better, and clearly the performance will be better, but am I better saving some cash and getting a lower miles and higher spec 3.6 TDV8?
Also, since the wife is still utterly convinced that any RR will break down constantly, can I confidently say that the newer one will be fine? I mention this because if I win the argument for the RR over the Touareg, and it then breaks down, there will be some extremely tense silences in the house!
So the key question is whether the 4.4 is miles better then the 3.6 or just better to buy if the extra price differential is of no importance to you. For clarity the extra 7k is a big deal to us so the car would need to be dramatically better / more reliable / slower to depreciate / result in more frequent and better sex etc to be worth the extra money.
Thoughts?
Man maths has been at work.
After idly perusing the classifieds I notice that for say an extra 7k I could buy one of the newer 4.4 TDV8 engined Range Rovers.
Reviews for this car are very good but is it really worth it? Guessing resale will be better, and clearly the performance will be better, but am I better saving some cash and getting a lower miles and higher spec 3.6 TDV8?
Also, since the wife is still utterly convinced that any RR will break down constantly, can I confidently say that the newer one will be fine? I mention this because if I win the argument for the RR over the Touareg, and it then breaks down, there will be some extremely tense silences in the house!
So the key question is whether the 4.4 is miles better then the 3.6 or just better to buy if the extra price differential is of no importance to you. For clarity the extra 7k is a big deal to us so the car would need to be dramatically better / more reliable / slower to depreciate / result in more frequent and better sex etc to be worth the extra money.
Thoughts?
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