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martynr said:
tobinen said:
ACA sale next weekend. How spectacularly insane would this be?
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
![](https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/images/lots/2649/6623~4/0001_VIaCZL_lg.jpeg)
I had to spend many hours on that website... looking at tractors...https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
![](https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/images/lots/2649/6623~4/0001_VIaCZL_lg.jpeg)
Probably equally as mad.
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
biggbn said:
21st Century Man said:
Without sounding like a stuck record, my Century does 20mpg and costs feck all to run because it's so well made and engineered it doesn't go wrong. Five years and about £750 so far in "failure" repairs. Apart from the usual annual oil & filter and a set of pads and tyres, that's been it. It's proven to be one of the cheapest cars I've ever run, by far.
I ran an LS400 for @6 months, 24mpg week in week out, 34mpg on runs, needed nothing, everything worked!! I also like the smaller 'older' IS saloon and cabrio with the v6 engine...not sure if the rfl is awful on there's or not. Reality suggests I'm unlikely to get shot of my mini right now but man maths is gonna kick in when I do for sure!! It's cost me pennies over 5 and a half years and gets great mpg but it's getting a little wearing. I only drive @ 250-300 miles a week now but shoukd really be comfier than a diesel mini!! 21st Century Man said:
QBee said:
21st Century Man said:
Who doesn't love an old school Hyundai Stellar with a V8?
Who cannot remember ever seeing a Hyundri Stellar with a V8? ![laugh](/inc/images/laugh.gif)
paging all of the denizens here.
if you have a smelly barge that you need to remedy, please do not mess about with products/steam etc.
I have had an automotive Damascus moment in the last few days. What you need is a Mk 1 Ozone Generator. Astonishingly effective.
best £50 notes I have ever spent.
if you have a smelly barge that you need to remedy, please do not mess about with products/steam etc.
I have had an automotive Damascus moment in the last few days. What you need is a Mk 1 Ozone Generator. Astonishingly effective.
best £50 notes I have ever spent.
I think you need to be careful with them with regard damaging fixtures and fittings, but I had this in a car that has been outside throughout our last 8 months of winter-mouldy smell to the car, also previously smoked in. Did a steam clean etc, then when the weather picked up last week-all the smells came back.
Put that bad boy in for two 10 minute blasts and the car now just smells....neutral. Ran it at the weekend and it still seems fine.
If I were looking for an automotive wheeze and was looking to get some odorous cars cheap and sell them on, this would be a little money making machine.
Remarkable.
Put that bad boy in for two 10 minute blasts and the car now just smells....neutral. Ran it at the weekend and it still seems fine.
If I were looking for an automotive wheeze and was looking to get some odorous cars cheap and sell them on, this would be a little money making machine.
Remarkable.
21st Century Man said:
My car has ionisers, I think they perform a similar function.
Probably-the physics is way over my head-but this product comes with stickers that you can put on the vehicle when it's being treated, and it says no life form should be anywhere near the malodorous vehicle during or after treatment. Felt and sounding like snake oil but, I am pleased to say-it did a "Ronseal" ie exactly what it said on the box for me.
Also, I think I may have improved the ozone situation over Surrey?
Perhaps there’s an ulterior agenda at play here, but these guys state that it’s effectively a placebo.
bolidemichael said:
Perhaps there’s an ulterior agenda at play here, but these guys state that it’s effectively a placebo.
I think you could be right that there's an ulterior agenda...The TLDR is that "this is equivalent to a water filter company highlighting that pressure washers aren't very good at cleaning water, and indeed can render the water more dirty after it lifts a bunch of crud off the thing you are washing".
I'm on a phone and the PDF of the research quoted is hard to navigate however the website is selling air filters and the title of the research implies they were testing the efficacy of systems to clean air, rather than the efficacy of using the output of those systems to clean things that are not air.
If an ozone generator causes the particulate count in the air to increase, and assuming we know that the ozone coming out of the machine is clean, then that increased particulate count is an indicator that the ozone is causing the materials of the car to give up SOMETHING into the air. Whether that something is dirty nicotine smells that we want rid of, or if it's actually stripping out components of the interior materials and making them more brittle and aged, well that would be good to know.
Maybe an ozone generator alternated with a HEPA filter is the ideal, maybe just using an ozone generator then opening all the doors to vent the dirty air is the simpler trick.
Edited by donkmeister on Wednesday 19th June 22:30
donkmeister said:
...or if it's actually stripping out components of the interior materials and making them more brittle and aged, well that would be good to know.
Ozone cleaner does that by oxidating everything that comes in contact with. There is a complete saga about using ozone cleaners for cleaning CPAP machines ( the ones that treats sleep apnea ). In effect it broke down the sponge used in these machines so people were inhaling little particles of that sponge, and it made all CPAP producers to recall many many types of these machines.So yes, ozone cleaner is making interior materials more brittle and aged.
nobrakes said:
martynr said:
tobinen said:
ACA sale next weekend. How spectacularly insane would this be?
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
![](https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/images/lots/2649/6623~4/0001_VIaCZL_lg.jpeg)
I had to spend many hours on that website... looking at tractors...https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
![](https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/images/lots/2649/6623~4/0001_VIaCZL_lg.jpeg)
Probably equally as mad.
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
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