EVs... no one wants them!

EVs... no one wants them!

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braddo

11,851 posts

203 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Tindersticks said:
The Model Y is pretty cavernous
While it's a good thing that it is selling so well across the globe, I can't stand the looks. If a Porsche Panamera appeared in Postman Pat or Noddy...

romft123

1,393 posts

19 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Olivera said:
740EVTORQUES said:
At around 13:00 Matt Farrah and Zack, both serious petrol heads outline why for them an EV does domestic duties so much better than ICE.

And this use is 95% of what 95% of people do each day remember.

Which is why the switch to EVs for the mass market makes perfect sense.
Apart from the large percentage of people that don't currently have off street parking/charging. This might become a non-issue due to widespread and cost-effective public charging, but time will tell.
Think you need to read read what was written

Tindersticks

2,698 posts

15 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Olivera said:
Apart from the large percentage of people that don't currently have off street parking/charging. This might become a non-issue due to widespread and cost-effective public charging, but time will tell.
I don't think anyone has mentioned that before.

Dave200

5,671 posts

235 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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braddo said:
Tindersticks said:
The Model Y is pretty cavernous
While it's a good thing that it is selling so well across the globe, I can't stand the looks. If a Porsche Panamera appeared in Postman Pat or Noddy...
I find my model 3 wholly unremarkable to look at, bordering on offensively bland. The lucky thing is that I've never been precious in how my dailies looked, or how I cared for them. It's just a tool for a job.

Dave200

5,671 posts

235 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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MightyBadger said:
Saw a BYD family saloon being driven sedately around Goodwood in a procession of other EVs, Polestar fast lap lacked any drama whatsoever and looked mightly boring - Goodwood wants EVs it seems though.
Goodwood has always been about bringing together tradition and the very best of automotive advancement. The Duke himself is a big believer in technology and progress. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/09/04/pe...

DonkeyApple

62,403 posts

184 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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MightyBadger said:
Saw a BYD family saloon being driven sedately around Goodwood in a procession of other EVs, Polestar fast lap lacked any drama whatsoever and looked mightly boring - Goodwood wants EVs it seems though.
What Goodwood wants is to be left alone to burn some petrol by the frothing nutbags and if slinging some boring EVs around for publicity shots and talking some utter bks about efuel is sufficient to keep the mentalists away then let them have at it. At the Revival they send out the PR junk at the exact time that any respectable spectator is thinking about going to get a coffee or beer, which seemed civilised. smile

ACCYSTAN

1,206 posts

136 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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New e Berlingo MPVs are arriving at dealers, around 40 more miles in the real world with the 2024 facelift vs the none facelift,
Easy to tell them apart, facelift models have the latest version of the Citroen badge.

Even more range in the winter if you add the optional heat pump for £350.

braddo

11,851 posts

203 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Dave200 said:
I find my model 3 wholly unremarkable to look at, bordering on offensively bland. The lucky thing is that I've never been precious in how my dailies looked, or how I cared for them. It's just a tool for a job.
I quite like the 3 because it's a low compact saloon in this age of tall cars. Although the front view looks odd it must give great forward visibility for those inside.

Olivera

8,118 posts

254 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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braddo said:
I quite like the 3 because it's a low compact saloon in this age of tall cars. Although the front view looks odd it must give great forward visibility for those inside.
I quite like the Model 3, but the giant expanse of windscreen glass gives it that automotive conehead look.


740EVTORQUES

980 posts

16 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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DonkeyApple said:
MightyBadger said:
Saw a BYD family saloon being driven sedately around Goodwood in a procession of other EVs, Polestar fast lap lacked any drama whatsoever and looked mightly boring - Goodwood wants EVs it seems though.
What Goodwood wants is to be left alone to burn some petrol by the frothing nutbags and if slinging some boring EVs around for publicity shots and talking some utter bks about efuel is sufficient to keep the mentalists away then let them have at it. At the Revival they send out the PR junk at the exact time that any respectable spectator is thinking about going to get a coffee or beer, which seemed civilised. smile
Ironically there’s no petrol available on site at Goodwood, you have to drive to the nearby Sainsbury’s during a trackday, but there are EV chargers smile

RayDonovan

5,522 posts

230 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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I'm in a minority but I like the look of the Tesla Model Y.

tamore

8,790 posts

299 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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RayDonovan said:
I'm in a minority but I like the look of the Tesla Model Y.
think it looks ok in any colour. just not white.

survivalist

6,017 posts

205 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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braddo said:
BMW M cars have had woefully inadequate brakes for decades, which has made them quite useless at track days and N'ring without brake upgrades. It's only in recent years that the brakes are (barely) adequate - they're still not good for sustained hard use.

If a Tesla Model 3 is in the same boat I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Just because a model is call Performance doesn't mean it's a track/ring tool. Same with 'M' on a BMW.
I think the main issue was the batteries thermal management and the reduced power output. Brakes are easy to fix with bolt on items - the drivetrain isn’t,

Apparently the European cars got an inferior battery to the US, which might explain why.

Either way it’s not an issue that many modern IcE cars have suffered from. Or some other EVs.

Last couple of generations of M3 (F and G?) seem to have significantly improved brakes over the earlier generation M3s.

FWIW

3,437 posts

112 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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tamore said:
RayDonovan said:
I'm in a minority but I like the look of the Tesla Model Y.
think it looks ok in any colour. just not white.
I don’t particularly like the look of the Y and have two of them!

Hedobot

704 posts

164 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Blimey

Im looking at the Model Y next, and I would only want a white one



FWIW

3,437 posts

112 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Hedobot said:
Blimey

Im looking at the Model Y next, and I would only want a white one
Nothing wrong with white as long as you have black wheels.

IMO etc… tongue out

raspy

2,015 posts

109 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Hedobot said:
Blimey

Im looking at the Model Y next, and I would only want a white one
Uber driver.

survivalist

6,017 posts

205 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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raspy said:
Hedobot said:
Blimey

Im looking at the Model Y next, and I would only want a white one
Uber driver.
Really? Most of them seem to be sticking with the Prius or that MG EV estate.

tamore

8,790 posts

299 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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Hedobot said:
Blimey

Im looking at the Model Y next, and I would only want a white one
fk me! ignore anything I say, as there's a vauxhall combo-e on my driveway!

Hedobot

704 posts

164 months

Friday 12th July 2024
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raspy said:
Uber driver.
Forgot to add I want white with the white interior.

I do like a clean surgical look

Have booked the test drive for next Friday, looking forward to it

The only other car on the radar is the Ioniq 6 but not sure I could live with the boot

Edited by Hedobot on Friday 12th July 23:17

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