EVs... no one wants them!
Discussion
98elise said:
oceanview said:
Tindersticks said:
stevemcs said:
Thats the thing though, 55mph and AC off in summer, 55mph and no heating in the winter, for a car to be an improvement it needs to match whats currently acheived.
Who’s doing those things?Just been catching up on the weekends posts - this thread is the gift that keeps on giving
Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
MightyBadger said:
Dave200 said:
That's the pinnacle of ice cars right there. That's the sort of thing we should all aspire to as attainable, fun daily motoring. Imagine the sheer delight of stroking it through the gears and listening to that sweet engine, while the chassis flows beautifully across a challenging B-road commute.
It will be a dark day for car enthusiasts when we're no longer able to buy a Toyota Avensis.
I would still take an Avensis over and EV It will be a dark day for car enthusiasts when we're no longer able to buy a Toyota Avensis.
98elise said:
oceanview said:
Tindersticks said:
stevemcs said:
Thats the thing though, 55mph and AC off in summer, 55mph and no heating in the winter, for a car to be an improvement it needs to match whats currently acheived.
Who’s doing those things?I don't think I've ever seen an EV 'crawling' along a motorway or similar. They just drive like everyone else IME.
greenarrow said:
Just been catching up on the weekends posts - this thread is the gift that keeps on giving
Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
The EV6 has a special ‘drift’ mode for exactly that purpose, and the Ionic 5 N has multiple track modes. Those are surely the enthusiasts choice?Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
740EVTORQUES said:
Jimjimhim said:
740EVTORQUES said:
PinkHouse said:
740EVTORQUES said:
PinkHouse said:
I prefer my cars like my ladies, without extra heft... no matter how many head-only selfies they use to disguise it
Bemoaning the day F1 gave up on grid girls Pink? 
Oilchange said:
740EVTORQUES said:
Jimjimhim said:
740EVTORQUES said:
PinkHouse said:
740EVTORQUES said:
PinkHouse said:
I prefer my cars like my ladies, without extra heft... no matter how many head-only selfies they use to disguise it
Bemoaning the day F1 gave up on grid girls Pink? 
The grid girls who lost their jobs were pissed, they enjoyed their work. Ask any of them
There were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
There were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
PinkHouse said:
An Avensis can also be stripped out and prepped into a fun track machine that can provide the kind of joy that no EV can provide. That's why the BTCC is and always will be way more popular than Formula E
I can't remember seeing a stripped out Avensis on a track day over the past 30 years but why not?As for EV joy on track, I am doing some consultancy on an EV only circuit project with fast charging supplied by solar on site so there is hope.
Probably a different type of fun but let's see what happens, it's early days.
Oilchange said:
The grid girls who lost their jobs were pissed, they enjoyed their work. Ask any of them
There were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
Wimmin hey.There were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
They should be thankful that us blokes offered them work in the first place, even if it was just to get an eyeful.
Bloody hell, next they'll be wanting to vote.
PinkHouse said:
An Avensis can also be stripped out and prepped into a fun track machine that can provide the kind of joy that no EV can provide. That's why the BTCC is and always will be way more popular than Formula E
A post of two parts drivel, zero parts fact or experience. Nice effort.Tell us all of the experience you've had with EVs that helps you draw the conclusion about the "joy they can provide". I'm sure that, just like our dearly departed mate Gary, it's extensive. Really looking forward to hearing it.
On the second point, peak BTCC viewing figures last year were 1.5m. Peak FormulaE viewing figures last year were several multiples of that, even for the rubbish races. I personally prefer BTCC, but you'd need to be a bit dense or completely clueless about the subject (see a pattern forming here?) to think that it was more popular than Formula E.
nickfrog said:
PinkHouse said:
An Avensis can also be stripped out and prepped into a fun track machine that can provide the kind of joy that no EV can provide. That's why the BTCC is and always will be way more popular than Formula E
I can't remember seeing a stripped out Avensis on a track day over the past 30 years but why not?As for EV joy on track, I am doing some consultancy on an EV only circuit project with fast charging supplied by solar on site so there is hope.
Probably a different type of fun but let's see what happens, it's early days.
The project sounds quite interesting and there's no reason why it shouldn't succeed, although running EV only days might be more profitable than making it an EV only track as you're limiting demand
nickfrog said:
PinkHouse said:
An Avensis can also be stripped out and prepped into a fun track machine that can provide the kind of joy that no EV can provide. That's why the BTCC is and always will be way more popular than Formula E
I can't remember seeing a stripped out Avensis on a track day over the past 30 years but why not?As for EV joy on track, I am doing some consultancy on an EV only circuit project with fast charging supplied by solar on site so there is hope.
Probably a different type of fun but let's see what happens, it's early days.
It's quite something to push a car hard around a track whilst not relying on friction braking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDKtwXUkao
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The unanimous response in those much more enlightened times was that petrolhead or enthusiast was an attitude of mind and absolutely nothing to do with whatever someone did or didn't own or drive.
Since that day my view has been that someone who makes fun of someone's failure to list their garage or take the mick out of someone's choice of transport is simply an unpleasant jingle jangle shiny possession obsessed oik who is only fit to be pitied and ignored.
It's just a matter of common decency and nothing to avoid declaring in my past fleet was a rusty HA Vauxhall Viva that my mother managed to write off.
greenarrow said:
Just been catching up on the weekends posts - this thread is the gift that keeps on giving
Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
Regarding listing the garage or not. Back in the days when PH was frankly a much friendlier place there was a thread where someone who was an impoverished student indirectly raised the issue that they were unsure of petrolhead / enthusiast status due to them only driving their Dad's car, or something along those lines.Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
The unanimous response in those much more enlightened times was that petrolhead or enthusiast was an attitude of mind and absolutely nothing to do with whatever someone did or didn't own or drive.
Since that day my view has been that someone who makes fun of someone's failure to list their garage or take the mick out of someone's choice of transport is simply an unpleasant jingle jangle shiny possession obsessed oik who is only fit to be pitied and ignored.
It's just a matter of common decency and nothing to avoid declaring in my past fleet was a rusty HA Vauxhall Viva that my mother managed to write off.
greenarrow said:
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Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
Pretty sure 'track mode is M3P only. It turns on the cooling fans (pre-emptively) and makes quite a noise! Returning to the thread discussion, I have a question for the Tesla 3 owners. Anyone know if with the RWD variant you can switch off all the driver aids for a bit of tail out action? A strange question perhaps, but as the Model 3 RWD for me is the EV spiritual successor to the BMW 3 series, its a fair question I think
Oilchange said:
The grid girls who lost their jobs were pissed, they enjoyed their work. Ask any of them
There were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
I’m devastated for my teenage daughters that they have been denied the opportunity of a life and self-esteem enhancing career as a grid girl by those Wokist bThere were a lot of opportunities for them and along came the nonsense that said they were exploited etc and they were gone. Nobody asked them I think...
All this will be lost in the mists of time though and history will be re written
ds.greenarrow said:
Just a general observation, I'm not sure its cricket for people who don't list their own car fleets in the "my garage" section to take the **** out of those that do, even when they own or have owned a Toyota Avensis....I mean I am sure most of us have stuff in our past car ownership catalogue we would rather forget about now! I know I do!
I deleted my "garage" because people are s. All taking the piss does is mean people don't list their cars. Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff