Route avoiding Rouen Crit'Air

Route avoiding Rouen Crit'Air

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giveitfish

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4,097 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I'm travelling with two other cars which don't qualify for a Crit'air sticker.

This looks like the best route to me, anyone else have any thoughts or experience?

https://goo.gl/maps/AnRchiFMRvd7FMHSA

I did this route about 10 years ago and I remember it being a traffic-jam free alternative to Rouen but also that it dragged on a bit. We're leaving the UK a bit later than hoped so we don't want to waste too much time on the journey.

nickfrog

21,942 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Is only to go through Rouen? I would probably chance it.

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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nickfrog said:
Is only to go through Rouen? I would probably chance it.
I assume our comrade means the cars are classics as they don't qualify for a sticker, rather than just being a dirty modern diesel.

You could probably chance it if you were in the modern diesel as that would require an eagle eyed Flic who had an encyclopedic knowledge of what model years of each car pass muster - and good enough hearing to tell it is not a petrol version.

Driving something like an E-Type is not going to fool even the dimmest observer.

(The route posted is the best bypass route, and isn't that much slower than the direct route, especially if there's traffic in Rouen)

davidd

6,527 posts

291 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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giveitfish said:
I'm travelling with two other cars which don't qualify for a Crit'air sticker.

This looks like the best route to me, anyone else have any thoughts or experience?

https://goo.gl/maps/AnRchiFMRvd7FMHSA

I did this route about 10 years ago and I remember it being a traffic-jam free alternative to Rouen but also that it dragged on a bit. We're leaving the UK a bit later than hoped so we don't want to waste too much time on the journey.
We've done it before and will do it again this year. Doesn't add much and there are roadworks through Rouen so it might be quicker.

Mark B

1,636 posts

272 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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We're doing that route Friday morning to avoid Rouen too. Great roads around there, nice scenery and should be able to find somewhere for lunch.

nickfrog

21,942 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
I assume our comrade means the cars are classics as they don't qualify for a sticker, rather than just being a dirty modern diesel.

You could probably chance it if you were in the modern diesel as that would require an eagle eyed Flic who had an encyclopedic knowledge of what model years of each car pass muster - and good enough hearing to tell it is not a petrol version.

Driving something like an E-Type is not going to fool even the dimmest observer.

(The route posted is the best bypass route, and isn't that much slower than the direct route, especially if there's traffic in Rouen)
Cheers. I need to understand the Crit Air thing a bit better lol. I see what you mean though. Those cars would stand out.

SixPotBelly

1,922 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
I assume our comrade means the cars are classics as they don't qualify for a sticker, rather than just being a dirty modern diesel.

You could probably chance it if you were in the modern diesel as that would require an eagle eyed Flic who had an encyclopedic knowledge of what model years of each car pass muster - and good enough hearing to tell it is not a petrol version.

Driving something like an E-Type is not going to fool even the dimmest observer.

(The route posted is the best bypass route, and isn't that much slower than the direct route, especially if there's traffic in Rouen)
True, although aren't French registered classics able to apply for exemption?

Either way, I really don't envisage the gendarmes will be parked up trying to spot non-compliant cars coming by at 110km/h. More if you get radared speeding on that particular stretch of road then, when they stop you, they'll also wander round to the front of the car and check your windscreen for the sticker. I've likened it in some of the other Crit'Air threads to back when we had paper tax discs.

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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SixPotBelly said:
True, although aren't French registered classics able to apply for exemption?

Either way, I really don't envisage the gendarmes will be parked up trying to spot non-compliant cars coming by at 110km/h. More if you get radared speeding on that particular stretch of road then, when they stop you, they'll also wander round to the front of the car and check your windscreen for the sticker. I've likened it in some of the other Crit'Air threads to back when we had paper tax discs.
I believe so on the exemptions, but isn't there already some special sort of registration for classics in France (Carte Gris?) that makes it easy to link the 2 systems.

Do we know for sure it is the actual Police (and/or Gendarmarie) that is responsible for checking for Crit-Air violations?

RallyChamp

118 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Stuck in the same decision - a route avoiding the Rouen zone. In the past we've gone down the west side outskirts of Rouen and across the Sienne at La Bouille on the small river ferry then picked up the D438 all the way down as an alternative to the A28.

There is a 'collector car' exemption agreed by the Rouen mayor. As an exemption rule end of page three (Derogation) and top of page four - https://www.ffve.org/IMG/pdf/arrete-zfe-rouen-.pdf

What qualifies as a collector will no doubt confuse the local gendarmerie. In other cities I believe it's down to something more than 30 years old. I would have probably chanced it as no-one (police) really wants to block traffic and irritate commuting locals by pulling over any classic car they think is guilty. However, as there's said to be road works on entering and through Rouen, and that lousy drive through the industrial estate, I'll probably go round instead.

FredericRobinson

3,938 posts

239 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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giveitfish said:
I'm travelling with two other cars which don't qualify for a Crit'air sticker.

This looks like the best route to me, anyone else have any thoughts or experience?

https://goo.gl/maps/AnRchiFMRvd7FMHSA

I did this route about 10 years ago and I remember it being a traffic-jam free alternative to Rouen but also that it dragged on a bit. We're leaving the UK a bit later than hoped so we don't want to waste too much time on the journey.
I shall be taking this route this afternoon for the first time, any issues will report back

RallyChamp

118 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
I shall be taking this route this afternoon for the first time, any issues will report back
Nice one, yes please. Rough idea of time taken would be appreciated too - can plan roughly where for lunch and detours etc.

giveitfish

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4,097 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
I shall be taking this route this afternoon for the first time, any issues will report back
Yes, please do.

Thanks the replies so far. I guess it all depends on your attitude to risk, the fines are not insignificant but hardly life changing.

I have a sticker on my Elise but my companions will be in a Chimera and a lifted TD5 Disco.

eastsider

1,101 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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We do the posted route most years on the way down, its a slightly longer distance than through Rouen but much nicer roads (than sidings and traffic lights) and almost never traffic so same time within ~5 mins. Nice views from the Pont de Brotogne!

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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AFAIK there is no restriction on the motorway and dual carriage link road it’s only if you enter the city

FredericRobinson

3,938 posts

239 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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giveitfish said:
Yes, please do.

Thanks the replies so far. I guess it all depends on your attitude to risk, the fines are not insignificant but hardly life changing.

I have a sticker on my Elise but my companions will be in a Chimera and a lifted TD5 Disco.
Your route works fine, touch slower than Rouen, I saw vehicles further south I’d passed north of Rouen, but nothing in the scheme of things, there were lots of farm vehicles on low loaders being moved around Yvetot, but that’s Normandy in summer for you

RL17

1,335 posts

100 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Strike action Tuesday in France - manual enforcement (probably like parking wardens if at all).

I have a sticker but some in our group don’t.

Please get passengers to take piccies if all the police operations on this. Will be surprised if there’s many.

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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leyorkie said:
AFAIK there is no restriction on the motorway and dual carriage link road it’s only if you enter the city
This is what people keep saying but there doesn't seem to be a recent official map to confirm this - the map on the city website certainly shows only a few roads at the edge of the zone leading to P&R sites as being exempt, with all the main routes through the city being within the zone.

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I’ve traveled through and not see any signage
Nothing about entering a zone or warnings
It’s just very confusing

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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leyorkie said:
...It’s just very confusing French
smile

As I've said before, I think we are all just looking at these zones with British eyes where we expect heavy enforcement but with loopholes for rich people to pay their way out of the restrictions, whereas the French just say 'dirty cars are banned' and then don't do much about it.

delta0

2,392 posts

113 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
This is what people keep saying but there doesn't seem to be a recent official map to confirm this - the map on the city website certainly shows only a few roads at the edge of the zone leading to P&R sites as being exempt, with all the main routes through the city being within the zone.
These green ones are exempt. It’s not possible to go through from one side to the other on any road without going into the Crit’air zone. What we do know at this stage is it is not being enforced by fixed cameras yet until possibly next year. Like here they aren’t going to stop you. Possibly at a Peage or if you are doing something else naughty. More likely just get a fine in the post.



Edited by delta0 on Friday 2nd June 11:10