Which LMDH Teams at LM 2023?

Which LMDH Teams at LM 2023?

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RobbyJ

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1,634 posts

229 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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I've had a Google, maybe the answer isn't out there fully yet but do you wonderful people know what LMDH teams we can expect to see at LM24 in 2023 please?

Great Dane

2,793 posts

173 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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BMW, Toyota,Glickenhaus, Porsche, Cadillac, Acura, Peugeot Alpine and Lambo coming along

LM240

4,881 posts

225 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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I didn’t think BMW were at LM in 2023?

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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LM240 said:
I didn’t think BMW were at LM in 2023?
No, not until 24, neither are Alpine or Lamborghini, Acura don’t have anything outside of the USA confirmed yet either

RobbyJ

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229 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Many thanks. So is this the list as we understand it then?

Toyota, Glickenhaus, Porsche, Cadillac, Acura, Peugeot

FredericRobinson

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239 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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RobbyJ said:
Many thanks. So is this the list as we understand it then?

Toyota, Glickenhaus, Porsche, Cadillac, Acura, Peugeot
Not Acura, possibly Bykolles but I wouldn’t bet a penny on it

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Add Ferrari in, that’s HyperCar entries - LMH and LMDH in the combined top class

RobbyJ

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1,634 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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That's what I meant sorry, I'm still a little confused by the 'top class'. So Ferrari will be there in LMH this year too.

I've seen so many articles with all the new manufacturers and cars but was unsure who'd actually be at LM in 23.

ElGeorgeo

13 posts

94 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/07/21/2023-hyp... this is a useful guide as to who is doing what and when.

All of the currently announced LMH entries will be there, as thus-far LMH is a WEC only class - 2x Toyota, 2x Peugeot, 1 maybe 2x Glickenhaus, 2x Ferrari.

From LMDH (WEC and IMSA), likely 8x Porsche (2x WEC and 2x IMSA factory efforts, plus another 2x privateer each from WEC and IMSA), Cadillac (1x WEC definite, likely another from IMSA).

It's possible that Acura (Honda) might bring over one or both of their IMSA entries, but nothing confirmed. BMW definitely not coming until they enter WEC in 2024. Alpine and Lamborghini not racing their LMDH entries until 2024.

There are still two potential LMH entries - Vanwall (who were ByKolles in the LMP1 era), who are currently in a trademark dispute with someone else who reckons they also own the Vanwall name. The car is running though, and surprisingly not on fire for those that remember ByKolles. There's also Isotta Fraschini who haven't really shown anything at all and I'd be blown away if they made the Le Mans grid next year.

In total, even ignoring the yet-to-be-announced LMH entries, I make that 18 potential entries in the top class at Le Mans, with even more for the year after... Is it June yet?

RobbyJ

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1,634 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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ElGeorgeo said:
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/07/21/2023-hyp... this is a useful guide as to who is doing what and when.

All of the currently announced LMH entries will be there, as thus-far LMH is a WEC only class - 2x Toyota, 2x Peugeot, 1 maybe 2x Glickenhaus, 2x Ferrari.

From LMDH (WEC and IMSA), likely 8x Porsche (2x WEC and 2x IMSA factory efforts, plus another 2x privateer each from WEC and IMSA), Cadillac (1x WEC definite, likely another from IMSA).

It's possible that Acura (Honda) might bring over one or both of their IMSA entries, but nothing confirmed. BMW definitely not coming until they enter WEC in 2024. Alpine and Lamborghini not racing their LMDH entries until 2024.

There are still two potential LMH entries - Vanwall (who were ByKolles in the LMP1 era), who are currently in a trademark dispute with someone else who reckons they also own the Vanwall name. The car is running though, and surprisingly not on fire for those that remember ByKolles. There's also Isotta Fraschini who haven't really shown anything at all and I'd be blown away if they made the Le Mans grid next year.

In total, even ignoring the yet-to-be-announced LMH entries, I make that 18 potential entries in the top class at Le Mans, with even more for the year after... Is it June yet?
Excellent info, many thanks. Can't wait, it's going to be a cracker!

OFORBES

533 posts

107 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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ElGeorgeo said:
... Is it June yet?
I am counting down the days...

I had tickets for 2020, but cancelled and didnt go in '21 either, instead deciding to wait it out for '23. It's going to be an incredible event being the centennial event!

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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ElGeorgeo said:
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/07/21/2023-hyp... this is a useful guide as to who is doing what and when.

All of the currently announced LMH entries will be there, as thus-far LMH is a WEC only class - 2x Toyota, 2x Peugeot, 1 maybe 2x Glickenhaus, 2x Ferrari.

From LMDH (WEC and IMSA), likely 8x Porsche (2x WEC and 2x IMSA factory efforts, plus another 2x privateer each from WEC and IMSA), Cadillac (1x WEC definite, likely another from IMSA).

It's possible that Acura (Honda) might bring over one or both of their IMSA entries, but nothing confirmed. BMW definitely not coming until they enter WEC in 2024. Alpine and Lamborghini not racing their LMDH entries until 2024.

There are still two potential LMH entries - Vanwall (who were ByKolles in the LMP1 era), who are currently in a trademark dispute with someone else who reckons they also own the Vanwall name. The car is running though, and surprisingly not on fire for those that remember ByKolles. There's also Isotta Fraschini who haven't really shown anything at all and I'd be blown away if they made the Le Mans grid next year.

In total, even ignoring the yet-to-be-announced LMH entries, I make that 18 potential entries in the top class at Le Mans, with even more for the year after... Is it June yet?
I think that’s a bit over optimistic on the number of American teams coming over, Acura won’t be and I can’t see us getting near 8 Porches, but it’s still going to be the best top class field for years, and even better the year after.

RL17

1,335 posts

100 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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If a privateer team could win overall at Le Mans in next few years, 2023 would be the year to do it before most of the manufacturers have had a season to get rid of minor parts failures that may pop up during racing (like Peugeot had in Japan). 2 factory cars rather than 3 of a few years back too.

Porsche privateer would probably be best bet.

LMDh cars are getting a few more races in before LM if ready for IMSA season and 24 hour run out at Daytona in January I presume.


cn7k7

213 posts

151 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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RL17 said:
If a privateer team could win overall at Le Mans in next few years, 2023 would be the year to do it before most of the manufacturers have had a season to get rid of minor parts failures that may pop up during racing (like Peugeot had in Japan). 2 factory cars rather than 3 of a few years back too.

Porsche privateer would probably be best bet.

LMDh cars are getting a few more races in before LM if ready for IMSA season and 24 hour run out at Daytona in January I presume.
Jota and WRT have got to be the ones to watch in the privateer Porsche arena….two great teams that have had many an exiting battle

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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cn7k7 said:
Jota and WRT have got to be the ones to watch in the privateer Porsche arena….two great teams that have had many an exiting battle
WRT are running the beemers

Silver3ides

1,556 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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Ferrari Hypercar launch tonight @ 20.50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDvhsio7D4



LM240

4,881 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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Silver3ides said:
Ferrari Hypercar launch tonight @ 20.50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDvhsio7D4

This is so good for Le Mans. Amazing how quickly the event can turn around. Prototypes and GT looking promising for the next few years.

I’m a little bit torn though for next year. Porsche owner / fan and particularly like their LM race history but I’ve been a Ferrari F1 fan for 30 plus years. Regardless, fantastic to have a factory battle on like this again.

LM240

4,881 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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Looking good…




LM240

4,881 posts

225 months

Monday 31st October 2022
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How good having a proper grid of prototypes next year, and more to come.

Icing on the cake will be close competition.


FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Proton gave announced that they intend to Ron a Porsche HyperCar in the WEC and IMSA next season, so that should be 4 for Le Mans