The old route to Le Mans

The old route to Le Mans

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wsn03

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1,925 posts

108 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Can someone please tell me the old road to Le Mans from Calais pre - motorways

Thank you

bodysnatcher

232 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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from Rouen to Le Mans the old road is the D438. (the old N138)
not sure if you can easily recreate the old roads from Calais to Rouen - or that you would want to
try telling google maps to avoid motorways and tolls

bodysnatcher

232 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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D940 Calais to Etaples, D1001 to Abbeville, D928 to Rouen?
In order to recreate our first trip, you have to collide with a Frenchman in Boulogne and get completely lost in Rouen

LawrieC

583 posts

111 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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I still use the N138 from Rouen to Le Mans. Its largely straight with some duel. But it goes through all the villages and valleys, which slows you down a fair bit, especially as most villages have by-passes, with 4 small roundabouts, which really does slow you down, but if you've go the time its a fast drive in the country

From memory, Calais to Rouen isn't as good on the D1001 and D928. This too has been replaced by Peage (free south of Abbeville). If you get bored with the D roads you can always join the Peage at the next junction.

Well worth a try, but allow for the extra time

wsn03

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1,925 posts

108 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Thanks for the replies chaps, really helpful.


RL17

1,335 posts

100 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Last bit below/after Alencon is good (where road becomes D338) and is also en route if going via Caen.

Not too long and less built up.

Whole road up to near Rouen is popular with aggregate lorries, convoys of older vehicles and smoky oil burning Corvettes.

//j17

4,616 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Depending what you mean by THE old route (and ignoring the Calais region) we go cross country on D roads from Abbeville, crossing Le Seine at Les Andeles rather than Rouen. That route won't have changed much over the years.

The Calais stretch is straight forward non-motorway, at least south from Boulogne-sun-Mer - but I've yet to find any interesting driving roads in the Pas to make it worth the extra 45min.


Of course you can just tell your satnav/Google Maps to aboid motorways and toll roads you'll get a route that would 99% be a pre-motorway one... (Though interestingly Google DOESN'T take you all the way over to Alen on and down the old N138, which was certainly the 'classic' entry in to Le Mans). 2.5hrs longer Calais to Le Mans in case anyone's interested.

Edited by //j17 on Sunday 29th May 12:11

wsn03

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1,925 posts

108 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Thanks for the further replies

Based on this I'll rephrase the question - what is the best / old skool route from Calais to Le Mans?

boolay

1,552 posts

245 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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For me, it's motorway to Rouen then D338 / N138 to LM. But then I'm a LM millennial.

//j17

4,616 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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A good old skool route is the one we take. Autoroute to Abbeville, then south to Marseille-en-Beauvaisi, south west through Gournay-en-Bray to Les Andelys. Cross the Seine and through Évreux and south south west, through L'Aigle and Bellême and Bonnêtable into Le Mans from the north east.

Only traffic you tend to see is when you briefly join the Le Mans outter ring road for about 2 junctions before you're at the circuit.

Voyager75

57 posts

67 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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To make the run truly realistic don’t forget to divert around the French farmers unloading trucks of manure on roads to protest against rising prices.

wsn03

Original Poster:

1,925 posts

108 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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//j17 said:
A good old skool route is the one we take. Autoroute to Abbeville, then south to Marseille-en-Beauvaisi, south west through Gournay-en-Bray to Les Andelys. Cross the Seine and through vreux and south south west, through L'Aigle and Bell me and Bonn table into Le Mans from the north east.

Only traffic you tend to see is when you briefly join the Le Mans outter ring road for about 2 junctions before you're at the circuit.
Ill take a look at that one, thank you

oilrag1

133 posts

149 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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A note of caution chaps,using the old route from Rouen D route has its peril's.
Most village's have roundabout's,lots of and very pretty one's too ,slow down and admire, because most have a camera enforced speed limit of 50kph...........31mph
I successfully collected a few fines returning from the classic in 2018,in a vw campervan.
Time allows me to laugh now , a t25 speeding ,ha ha ,
but i had 3 fines to prove it can landing on my doorstep a few weeks later.

Just be careful.

Enjoy your trips.





Nosynchro

237 posts

154 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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For those with time it’s worth going by Vimoutiers to see Char Tigre (assuming it’s still there) for those interested in WW2 and then for cheese fans it’s a short hop to Camembert

LawrieC

583 posts

111 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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They did go mad on speed cameras about 5 years ago. You have the old 4 drawer filing cabinet type, the two poles, and the gantry types. They announced a mobile system that could work on cars going either way, but I've heard no more. Best bet is to look for a parked blue car with a man looking through binoculars, either behind the car or in the bushes, especially on the way back to Calais.

Back to the old route - I haven't made it yet, but I'm told the Perche valley is picturesque. It runs north south about 20 miles east of Alencon. Aim for Mortagne au Perche to Belleme. It may fit in with routes via Evreux

Plus8

248 posts

97 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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As I am lead to believe, when the uk cars were driven to the circuit from the uk (I’m talking pre 1939), the drivers used to stop in Gace for a bite to eat. As a tradition we stopped there for many years for breakfast as there is a typical square with a couple of restaurants on it.
Unfortunately since the peage avoids the town, in recent years it has become some what neglected which is a shame, as there were always a few Classics to admire.

wsn03

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1,925 posts

108 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Plus8 said:
As I am lead to believe, when the uk cars were driven to the circuit from the uk (I’m talking pre 1939), the drivers used to stop in Gace for a bite to eat. As a tradition we stopped there for many years for breakfast as there is a typical square with a couple of restaurants on it.
Unfortunately since the peage avoids the town, in recent years it has become some what neglected which is a shame, as there were always a few Classics to admire.
Still sounds like a pleasant enough place for a stop though

davidd

6,528 posts

291 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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wsn03 said:
Still sounds like a pleasant enough place for a stop though
It is and there are a couple of decent places to eat.

//j17

4,616 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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When I've done the overnight Portsmouth/Le Havre route we used to stop just west, in Trun. Nice, basic brasserie for brunch (followed by a cake for later from the patisserie next door) and always got a parking space right outside - https://goo.gl/maps/d58qAzXboCrwtn556

For the Calais run it's stop in the square in Les Andelys (hoping they have finished the 2021 building work, it USED to be nice...) and grab food from one of the many boulangerie (I think baking might be the towns main industry there are so many around there) - https://goo.gl/maps/uFMbpRT75udXP4nF9
The drop down and parking up - https://goo.gl/maps/Tt57MXufnN5ytmi58
And walking down to enjoy our food watchng the boats on Le Seine - https://goo.gl/maps/EcQmRM1VngjrguYd9

guff666

14 posts

29 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Another thing to watch out on D roads. The French love their 30kph speed humps. And don't think they can be taken at higher speed unless a) you have very good suspension and ride height, and b) you don't have a full stomach. They can be very agressive.