2021 - Don't get too excited

2021 - Don't get too excited

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Great Dane

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2,793 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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https://sportscar365.com/lemans/lemans24/budget-cu...

Especially "To prepare for 2021, which will not take place according to the usual criteria both in terms of the number of events on-site and in terms of welcoming spectators, we must take certain essential decisions to protect our activities."

The Leaper

5,165 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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To me, the best thing about the ACO statement is that they are remaining positive about the future.

R.

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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There's no chance of 2021 being like 2019 and before

df76

3,823 posts

285 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Got to be a fair chance that it'll be another September race.

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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df76 said:
Got to be a fair chance that it'll be another September race.
Indeed. Even if it is just as an easy way to limit the demand. Lots of ticket prices rises too, no doubt.

LM240

4,883 posts

225 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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I think it is fair to predict that LM ‘21 will most likely be restricted like this years race.

A bit depressing to think like this already.

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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Fingers crossed for 2021 but think I'll be looking at 2022 for the full fat experiance we shall see....

wsn03

1,925 posts

108 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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It all depends on what happens with the vaccines, and no one commenting is an expert on this, even the scientists, because it is a journey into the unknown.
As anyone specialising in the spread of viruses will tell you (I can't even remember what name to give them) once you get up to 20% of people vaccinated with a working vaccine, its days of controlling our lives are numbered.

The current front runner is due for release they are expecting later this year. In all areas they are predicting mainstream roll out to by Spring. If that is true and really happens we will have a confident world by around Feb / March - we will still have controls and face mask rules, but people will stop giving a st by June, and lots of people will get drunk and break rules, and a hell of a lot of them will get caught out and die at that eleventh hour.

This assumes the vaccine works. If it doesn't, then we are really f****kd and I'll start looking at time machines or suicide options.

150 programmes worldwide, at the moment you'd have to bet on something working.

I would agree 2022 is a given as normal life, 2021, normal Le Mans, not fully, but I will be booking my ferry soon.

LawrieC

583 posts

111 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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df76 said:
Got to be a fair chance that it'll be another September race.
That's what I was thinking. Even if we had a vaccine next week, they won't have given it to everybody by June, so September is a safer bet if you want to avoid closed doors and/or a postponement.

They're short of money but are going to build a new pit complex - I didn't think there was much wrong with the current one. It is 25 years old, probably a bit small and the roof grandstand is a bit steep with limited view, but its a large and expensive piece of concrete.

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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LawrieC said:
That's what I was thinking. Even if we had a vaccine next week, they won't have given it to everybody by June, so September is a safer bet if you want to avoid closed doors and/or a postponement.

They're short of money but are going to build a new pit complex - I didn't think there was much wrong with the current one. It is 25 years old, probably a bit small and the roof grandstand is a bit steep with limited view, but its a large and expensive piece of concrete.
The ACO have announced job losses and postponements of projects, might not be seeing the pit grandstand changes any time soon

LawrieC

583 posts

111 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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FredericRobinson said:
The ACO have announced job losses and postponements of projects, might not be seeing the pit grandstand changes any time soon
It make sense to postpone the decision for as long as possible in the hope of having a race post vaccine - ie doors open

Great Dane

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2,793 posts

173 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Bathurst 12H cancelled

df76

3,823 posts

285 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Great Dane said:
Bathurst 12H cancelled
The only surprise is that it’s taken so long for that decision.

Got to be a real prospect of WEC Bahrain not happening and assume that the Dubai 24 is already off?

Red Firecracker

5,299 posts

234 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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df76 said:
The only surprise is that it’s taken so long for that decision.

Got to be a real prospect of WEC Bahrain not happening and assume that the Dubai 24 is already off?
There's never really anybody at WEC Bahrain anyway, so probbaly the safest race of all...

In all seriousness, the WEC Covid guidelines and the Bahrain test/entry requirements are very comprehensive, so I would be surprised if it is canned.

Great Dane

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2,793 posts

173 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Red Firecracker said:
df76 said:
The only surprise is that it’s taken so long for that decision.

Got to be a real prospect of WEC Bahrain not happening and assume that the Dubai 24 is already off?
There's never really anybody at WEC Bahrain anyway, so probbaly the safest race of all...

In all seriousness, the WEC Covid guidelines and the Bahrain test/entry requirements are very comprehensive, so I would be surprised if it is canned.
The grid is down to 25 max... Only problems are a few championships are not setteled


Red Firecracker

5,299 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Great Dane said:
The grid is down to 25 max... Only problems are a few championships are not setteled
The grid is the grid, I was referring to spectators. At least China buses them in on the promise of a free meal laugh

Great Dane

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2,793 posts

173 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Red Firecracker said:
Great Dane said:
The grid is down to 25 max... Only problems are a few championships are not setteled
The grid is the grid, I was referring to spectators. At least China buses them in on the promise of a free meal laugh
Wrong country


Red Firecracker

5,299 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Great Dane said:
Wrong country
No no, right country. Bahrain, empty stands. China, occupied stands but they're bussed in on the promise of a free meal. More people in the stands in China.

But anyway, back to 2021, the ACO are going to be absolutely desperate for cash by then, so I'd imagine the big thinkers in France will be doing all they can to get the races held. As for the general state of WEC, that's another (quite big) concern, but hopefully 2021/22 will see a resurgence as at least they appear to be listening when they announce mad new rules and then are willing to rescind them (LMP2).

LawrieC

583 posts

111 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I've lost track completely.

Is it still a July to June season?

Hypercars may exist but what happened to LMDP?

LMP2 seemed to be working well - lots of entries/good racing etc - has this been trashed to make Hypercars look good?

Yes/No answers will suffice.

FredericRobinson

3,940 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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No
2021, maybe 2022
Slowed down, trashed is taking it a bit far