Guernsey width & emissions tax

Guernsey width & emissions tax

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Shewie

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554 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Having seen the uproar in the press regarding the proposed width and emissions tax, I thought I'd have a dig around to try and understand the cost impacts of the new first registration charge...

I found this document and it doesn't make good reading for the majority of PH'ers. I certainly wasn't expecting the charges to be as punitive as what is proposed.

http://www.gov.gg/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=92907&p...

Take a look and see what you think.

Now might be a good time to buy that new car, if these proposals are to come into effect from January 2015!


The G Kid

851 posts

130 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Until I can afford a brand new 458 Speciale I doubt i'll ever buy a new car, so probably limited immediate impact on me.

What annoys me about the legislation is that we aready pay higher tax through the fuel duty if we have less economical cars, and the width of car has no impact on congestion or the environment. Plus we don't have a traffic problem in Guernsey...our problem is the green brigade of nutters who post on Your Shout etc who are convinced that we do.

Hopefully there will be enough deputies with a bit of common sense to throw this out.

darreni

3,994 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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I note that all busses & commercial vehicles are exempt, the ones that are actually causing issues on the roads.

It'll do nothing to reduce car numbers as people will just hang on to what they already have, & at the same time kill new car sales.

Total madness.

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Yup, madness!!

Another knock-on effect is that older cars will stay on the roads longer, with no catalytic convertors, and poor mpg, and in some cases, poor safety (really old, no ABS or similar?). Surely we want people into newer cars for these reasons? These fees will not limit the number of cars, just keep older cars on the roads longer!

Shewie

Original Poster:

554 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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To be honest if you're spending £100k+ on a car then you're probably happy to suck up the tax, as it's not a significant % of the cars value compared with the VAT saving.

My biggest concern, was the impact of importing a used car from the UK where the taxation makes a material difference.
I recently bought a car in th UK, which under the new rules would have cost an additional £5k to import. This is a significant enough amount of money to make it unviable.

As has been said, all this tax will do is keep older more polluting cars on the road and kill new car sales.

Let's hope they see sense on December 10th...

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Shewie said:
To be honest if you're spending £100k+ on a car then you're probably happy to suck up the tax, as it's not a significant % of the cars value compared with the VAT saving.

My biggest concern, was the impact of importing a used car from the UK where the taxation makes a material difference.
I recently bought a car in th UK, which under the new rules would have cost an additional £5k to import. This is a significant enough amount of money to make it unviable.

As has been said, all this tax will do is keep older more polluting cars on the road and kill new car sales.

Let's hope they see sense on December 10th...
Amen to that!

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Attended the rally/protest on Sunday. Good to see so many people there, and how strongly they felt about spending and taxation by the States. Never been to one before, but pleased I went. Fingers crossed for an appropriate outcome when the car taxation element of the transport debate comes up!

The G Kid

851 posts

130 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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cibble10 said:
Attended the rally/protest on Sunday. Good to see so many people there, and how strongly they felt about spending and taxation by the States. Never been to one before, but pleased I went. Fingers crossed for an appropriate outcome when the car taxation element of the transport debate comes up!
Did you take the GTS?

Shewie

Original Poster:

554 posts

197 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I drove past in the Turbo but found it was a bit wide with all those people around so didn't stop!! biggrin

On a serious note, It was good to see such a large turnout...

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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The G Kid said:
Did you take the GTS?
I was worried things might kick off so cycled in argue

The G Kid

851 posts

130 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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cibble10 said:
I was worried things might kick off so cycled in argue
Fair enough. I'm glad there was a good turnout.

Banzai987R

64 posts

267 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Apparently I could buy a tank - it is exempt! tank

Banzai987R

64 posts

267 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Apparently I could buy a tank - it is exempt! tank

darreni

3,994 posts

277 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Banzai987R said:
Apparently I could buy a tank - it is exempt! tank
So are all commercial vehicles & the busses as well.
The transport strategy is like a 2nd rate GCSE project. Quite remarkable it even stands a chance of being passed.

John Gollop - now on the envorinment board- stated that the states should treat the motorist as cash cow & milk it at every opportunity.

Banzai987R

64 posts

267 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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darreni said:
So are all commercial vehicles & the busses as well.
The transport strategy is like a 2nd rate GCSE project. Quite remarkable it even stands a chance of being passed.

John Gollop - now on the envorinment board- stated that the states should treat the motorist as cash cow & milk it at every opportunity.
You are pulling my.... oh!

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Banzai987R said:
You are pulling my.... oh!
JG. Now there is a man who doesn't know his Porsches from a pork pie jester

Banzai987R

64 posts

267 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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He really is completely hatstand rofl

darreni

3,994 posts

277 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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He does seem to be well respected though.

Must have (very) hidden talents.

cibble10

722 posts

126 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Banzai987R said:
He really is completely hatstand rofl
Most apparently mad men are geniuses. I should know idea

Shewie

Original Poster:

554 posts

197 months