Expensive Car Supplement
Discussion
Ok so I bought a new Model 3 for £41000 in August 2024. I renewed tax for 12 months for £0, so I will have to start paying VED in March. So far not paid a penny in VED. Chatgpt is convinced that the Expensive Car Supplement exemption ends this year and I'll have to pay that going forward too.
I'm sure, I'm SURE when I looked at this ages ago, the date I bought the car meant I wouldn't have to pay the ECS. Does anyone else know about this and can confirm? Bit annoyed I'll be shafted for £400 a year because I picked the white interior.
The new £50,000 threshold only applies to those purchased after April 2025, it says.
I'm sure, I'm SURE when I looked at this ages ago, the date I bought the car meant I wouldn't have to pay the ECS. Does anyone else know about this and can confirm? Bit annoyed I'll be shafted for £400 a year because I picked the white interior.
The new £50,000 threshold only applies to those purchased after April 2025, it says.
P675 said:
Chatgpt is convinced that the Expensive Car Supplement exemption ends this year and I'll have to pay that going forward too.
There's your problem, AI hallucinating again.EVs registered before April 2025 don't pay ECS. EV's registered after April 2025 and over £40k were going to be charged the ECS on 2nd to 6th years of VED, however Rachal from Accounts has not said it'll only apply to those over £50k.
HTH.
Mammasaid said:
There's your problem, AI hallucinating again.
EVs registered before April 2025 don't pay ECS. EV's registered after April 2025 and over £40k were going to be charged the ECS on 2nd to 6th years of VED, however Rachal from Accounts has not said it'll only apply to those over £50k.
HTH.
It got really hung up on the gov.uk website saying all new and existing vehicles will follow the rates introduced from April 2025, even though it says on the same page ECS is for vehicles registered after April 2025. EVs registered before April 2025 don't pay ECS. EV's registered after April 2025 and over £40k were going to be charged the ECS on 2nd to 6th years of VED, however Rachal from Accounts has not said it'll only apply to those over £50k.
HTH.
Even after pointing this out I had to ask it to look at other sources. Spending my day arguing with a computer what's it come to.
P675 said:
It got really hung up on the gov.uk website saying all new and existing vehicles will follow the rates introduced from April 2025, even though it says on the same page ECS is for vehicles registered after April 2025.
Even after pointing this out I had to ask it to look at other sources. Spending my day arguing with a computer what's it come to.
Even after pointing this out I had to ask it to look at other sources. Spending my day arguing with a computer what's it come to.
Mammasaid said:
P675 said:
It got really hung up on the gov.uk website saying all new and existing vehicles will follow the rates introduced from April 2025, even though it says on the same page ECS is for vehicles registered after April 2025.
Even after pointing this out I had to ask it to look at other sources. Spending my day arguing with a computer what's it come to.
Even after pointing this out I had to ask it to look at other sources. Spending my day arguing with a computer what's it come to.
fooman said:
Yep AI can tell you something with confidence and authority that's out of date and superceeded just because it reads it on a website somewhere.
The worst thing to happen is on google the first result is always their AI result trying to summarise something. If you know what it is you are looking at I can almost always spot something incorrect but the problem is that most people will now just read this and not click further into the actual links. I am one of the few people yet to use Chat GPT for anything and I am sure it has its uses, but this mid 30 year old is refusing to move with the times haha.This
"how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
"how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
Gone fishing said:
This
"how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
More AI slop....."how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
Mammasaid said:
Gone fishing said:
This
"how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
More AI slop....."how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025
If there s slop it s that it doesn t put an additional category for cars first registered after 1st April 2026
Gone fishing said:
Mammasaid said:
Gone fishing said:
This
"how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
More AI slop....."how much does a 2024 tesla pay in ved?"
into google comes back with
"AI Overview
A 2024 Tesla pays £0 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) in the UK. Electric vehicles registered before April 1, 2025, are exempt from paying VED, though they must still be taxed online via the official DVLA website at a rate of £0.
VED Changes for EVs
The VED rules for electric vehicles are changing significantly from April 1, 2025.
For your 2024 Tesla (registered between April 1, 2017, and March 31, 2025): From April 1, 2025, you will need to pay the standard annual VED rate, which is currently £195 per year. The "expensive car supplement" (for vehicles with a list price over £40,000) does not apply to EVs registered before April 2025.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025:
First year: A VED rate of £10 will apply.
Second year onwards: The standard annual rate of £195 applies.
Expensive Car Supplement: Because most Teslas have a list price over £40,000, they will also be subject to an additional "expensive car supplement" for years 2 through 6, which is currently £425 per year. This brings the total annual VED to £620 for those years. After the sixth year, the rate drops to the standard £195.
You can check the current VED status of any vehicle on the GOV.UK vehicle enquiry service using its registration number. "
The formatting is lost with the cut and paste, with the formatting it's easier to read and it its bang on the money.
For Teslas registered on or after April 1, 2025
If there s slop it s that it doesn t put an additional category for cars first registered after 1st April 2026
I'm not against using AI, hell I use it for my work for the drudge work, but you cannot take what it says as gospel, always take what it says with a bucket of salt!
P675 said:
So far not paid a penny in VED.
All good things come to an end. The last time I paid any VED on my car was March 2014, and about 130k miles ago.With the 3p/mile extra EV tax coming, going to go on another summer road trip this year in the EV and than it's probably back to flying versus driving for summer holidays......Cheap EV motoring is definitely coming to an end, I cannot complain too much as it was always going to end at some point. My commute is actually only about 10 miles a day by car, so milage on the EV will soon halve as all the extra/new EV taxes really start to accumulate.
gangzoom said:
P675 said:
So far not paid a penny in VED.
All good things come to an end. The last time I paid any VED on my car was March 2014, and about 130k miles ago.With the 3p/mile extra EV tax coming, going to go on another summer road trip this year in the EV and than it's probably back to flying versus driving for summer holidays......Cheap EV motoring is definitely coming to an end, I cannot complain too much as it was always going to end at some point. My commute is actually only about 10 miles a day by car, so milage on the EV will soon halve as all the extra/new EV taxes really start to accumulate.
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11500 miles last year, £239 in Electricity.
3p a mile extra from Apr 28. Will they stop at EV?
So around 5p a mile versus 12p average diesel ..
So it ll still be under half the running cost of fossil fuel in a couple of years..
I do still have my old diesel for tip runs etc, a 2014 so not even Ulez compliant, but that s under £35 a year car tax!
Edited by RotorRambler on Sunday 11th January 06:59
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