0 to 60 in 2 seconds anyone?

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

Alfa Romeo’s ambitions run beyond mainstream EVs, though. It’s also planning a Quadrifoglio version with up to 1,000bhp and a 0-62mph time of around two seconds.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/alfa-romeo/stelvio/3...

[ChocolateFrog]

Passengers already get quite grumpy at 3.8s, I think I'd risk physical abuse if I subjected them to 2s.

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

I think with the wrong setup, you could probably snap someone's neck.

[ChocolateFrog]

Imagine forgetting your child is in a rear facing seat

[RazerSauber]

Imagine doing all that and being slower than a Challenger Demon 170. 1.66 seconds to 60. Absolutely mind blowing. I must admit that the instant acceleration of an EV is addictive. This would be a hell of a thing to drive around in.

[Murph7355]

RazerSauber said:

Imagine doing all that and being slower than a Challenger Demon 170. 1.66 seconds to 60. Absolutely mind blowing. I must admit that the instant acceleration of an EV is addictive. This would be a hell of a thing to drive around in.

It's not just the instant on, but the continued onslaught IME. No gear changes, not building torque curve each time. It's roller coaster like.

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

Plus it is a 4 door you can probably park in an Aldi parking.

[ChocolateFrog]

RazerSauber said:

Imagine doing all that and being slower than a Challenger Demon 170. 1.66 seconds to 60. Absolutely mind blowing. I must admit that the instant acceleration of an EV is addictive. This would be a hell of a thing to drive around in.

On a prepped track and drag radials no doubt.

[ZesPak]

RazerSauber said:

Imagine doing all that and being slower than a Challenger Demon 170. 1.66 seconds to 60.

What an odd comparison. It's also over 1000hp, 100k USD, but built just to drag race it. It's hardly a usable car like most EVs are.
You realize that it only has one seat, right?

[PetrolHeadInRecovery]

ZesPak said:

RazerSauber said:

Imagine doing all that and being slower than a Challenger Demon 170. 1.66 seconds to 60.

What an odd comparison. It's also over 1000hp, 100k USD, but built just to drag race it. It's hardly a usable car like most EVs are.
You realize that it only has one seat, right?

Even the Lexus LFA engine needs 0.6 seconds to go from idle to 9000 rpm. If the Challenger Demon (with all the extra inertia of superchargers and beefed up internals) would be as fast to optimal launch rpm, it would still be only a yawn-inducingly slow 2.26-second car.

Unless, of course, you're sitting at all the traffic lights with the brake and gas pedal pushed to the floor. However, the range (both the car's and your driver's licence's) would probably be much shorter than the range of a typical EV.

(in practice, I find that an unacceptably slow, sub-6-second EV is already too fast to be floored pretty much anywhere with traffic density requiring traffic lights. Maybe I've just gotten old...)

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

said:

Thing as well is as there will be more EV on roads, likelyhood that traffic lights will turn into Daytona becomes higher.
There's no revving as well, just quickly move to sport mode on red, then floor on green

[AB]

It's all very impressive but a little unnecessary.

I've hurt a few people with launch control and sub 3 seconds to 60.

[GT9]

AB said:

It's all very impressive but a little unnecessary.

I've hurt a few people with launch control and sub 3 seconds to 60.

Hit and run?

[NDA]

When I was growing up in the 70's, we'd peer through the drivers windows of parked cars "phooaar, that goes 120" we'd say when we saw the upper register on the speedo. We'd occasionally see a 150 - a big news item.

These days? Everything does 150. Many are limited to 150. Is speed even a thing any more?

I've had petrol cars capable of over 200. I have an EV with a silly 0-60 time. It all feels a bit meaningless to be honest.

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

NDA said:

When I was growing up in the 70's, we'd peer through the drivers windows of parked cars "phooaar, that goes 120" we'd say when we saw the upper register on the speedo. We'd occasionally see a 150 - a big news item.

These days? Everything does 150. Many are limited to 150. Is speed even a thing any more?

I've had petrol cars capable of over 200. I have an EV with a silly 0-60 time. It all feels a bit meaningless to be honest.

Maybe that's the point. The point of diminishing returns.
In that case, there's no returns.
When all cars, even a £29,900 like the MG4 EV can do 0 to 60 in 6 secs, it just takes the shine off these numbers.
Sure, you can get way faster but you don't go shopping or school run in drag race mode.

[popeyewhite]

Simple tune on a Golf r can see 0-60 in the 3ees. More about the launch than massive power.

[normalbloke]

Crikey, that’s going to ruffle some jumbo cords.

[AB]

GT9 said:

AB said:

It's all very impressive but a little unnecessary.

I've hurt a few people with launch control and sub 3 seconds to 60.

Hit and run?

Couldn't possibly say

[RizzoTheRat]

485 mile range...I'm guessing not if if you do a few 2 second 0-60's. Presumably relatively heavy so using that acceleration would eat the tyres pretty quickly too.


I've done sub 3 seconds (on diesel power!) and it's certainly whips your head back a bit, sub 2 must be a hell of a jolt, that's 1.3g acceleration (1.7 overall)

[ZesPak]

RizzoTheRat said:

485 mile range...I'm guessing not if if you do a few 2 second 0-60's. Presumably relatively heavy so using that acceleration would eat the tyres pretty quickly too.


I've done sub 3 seconds (on diesel power!) and it's certainly whips your head back a bit, sub 2 must be a hell of a jolt, that's 1.3g acceleration (1.7 overall)

I've got a 3.5s EV and deploy it all the time. It's been really good on tires, minimal wheelspin, no gears to go through.