ICE after 2030
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I imagine they just won’t be able to manufacture new ones after 2030, existing and unregistered stock will either be given leeway or dealers will have to register them and then sell them as pre reg.
Worst the government could do is increase things like ULEZ zones against ice cars, increase fuel duty etc i don’t think they would ever ban them totally, it will just be a gradual decline.
Worst the government could do is increase things like ULEZ zones against ice cars, increase fuel duty etc i don’t think they would ever ban them totally, it will just be a gradual decline.
A500leroy said:
Just pondering, if a manufacturer sold a new ice only after the date, and someone brought one, what's the worse the government could do to them both?
Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
How are you going goto register it? Without a registration and insurance and of course it not being road legal it will soon get pulled. You won't get it back without insurance.Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
A500leroy said:
Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
You would think they would stop shipping them a few months before the end.Other countries worldwide will still use and sell ICE, so manufacturing won't stop.
I don't think there will be a problem shifting the last ICE, there will be more than enough people wanting them.
A500leroy said:
Just pondering, if a manufacturer sold a new ice only after the date, and someone brought one, what's the worse the government could do to them both?
Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
It's the country of origin to where it is sold. If it is in the UK, then I believe they will have X months to either sell or remove stock as of 2030. If you are importing then UK Government cannot do anything. I suspect though that they would make an agreement with the DVLA to block ICE imports.Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
You will be able to buy a pure ICE after 2030. Just not a new one.
As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
Turtle Shed said:
There's an election before 2030, and I have absolutely no doubt that campaigning by whichever opposition parties we have then will include reversing that policy.
Personally I don't see this lot lasting another year anyway.
Please enlighten us how the current Government will fall within the next 12 months. Personally I don't see this lot lasting another year anyway.
I trust you've placed a very large bet on it. I haven't btw.
Nomme de Plum said:
You will be able to buy a pure ICE after 2030. Just not a new one.
As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
I know all that, I was specifically asking about new and what happens to any new unregistered as stated in my original post.As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
A500leroy said:
Nomme de Plum said:
You will be able to buy a pure ICE after 2030. Just not a new one.
As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
I know all that, I was specifically asking about new and what happens to any new unregistered as stated in my original post.As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
It is an utter irrelevance.
Nomme de Plum said:
A500leroy said:
Nomme de Plum said:
You will be able to buy a pure ICE after 2030. Just not a new one.
As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
I know all that, I was specifically asking about new and what happens to any new unregistered as stated in my original post.As most of you don't buy new cars privately anyway why are you getting all vexed.
800K new car private sales in 2024 versus 7.61M used so 9.5 times as many used compared to new.
It's a non issue.
There is a major issue in the UK but not has nothing to do with car sales.
It is an utter irrelevance.
Andy86GT said:
phil4 said:
I don't think Labour have moved the date back to 2030 yet... and with the current distractions, they may never.
I don't think Labour have a Scooby Doo what they are doing, one minute they are greener than Kermit, the next they are advocating a third runway at Heathrow.. 
A500leroy said:
Just pondering, if a manufacturer sold a new ice only after the date, and someone brought one, what's the worse the government could do to them both?
Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
If a manufacturer were to sell a new ICE-only car after 2030 in violation of the ban, both the manufacturer and the buyer could face different consequences.Also what's going to happen all the ice only cars that are unregistered but in the UK on Dec 31st 2029?
1. If a Manufacturer Sells a New ICE-Only Car After 2030
Manufacturer Consequences:
Legal Action & Fines: The government could impose significant fines and legal action for non-compliance.
Trading Restrictions: The manufacturer could face restrictions on selling vehicles in the UK or lose type approval for future models.
Public Backlash & Loss of Reputation: Consumer confidence in the brand could decline, particularly if they are seen as disregarding environmental regulations.
Buyer Consequences:
Vehicle Registration Issues: The DVLA might refuse to register the vehicle, rendering it undrivable on public roads.
Insurance & Taxation Problems: Without registration, insuring and taxing the vehicle would be impossible.
Possible Confiscation: If the car is deemed to be unlawfully sold and registered, the government could seize it.
2. ICE-Only Cars in the UK on 31st December 2029 but Not Yet Registered
Any unregistered ICE cars in the UK before the deadline could still be legally registered and used after 2030, provided they were imported or manufactured before the cut-off date.
If a manufacturer or dealer had unsold stock of ICE vehicles on 31st December 2029, they might rush to register them before the deadline to avoid being unable to sell them as "new" after the ban.
There is a possibility of loopholes, such as cars being pre-registered as dealer demonstrators or company vehicles before the deadline, then resold as "used" rather than new.
If a vehicle was manufactured but remained unregistered past 2030, its status would depend on how strictly the law is enforced—it could potentially require special exemptions, exportation, or conversion to hybrid/electric to be road-legal.
Acuity30 said:
Until every petrol station has several EV chargers, this law will never be passed. Infrastructure is a couple decades away and that's being optimistic
You do realise that this is happening.. and that ICE engines won’t be banned from use, and that hybrid engines will still be sold until 2035? So in a couple of decades time, the infrastructure will be right and just as needed.df76 said:
You do realise that this is happening.. and that ICE engines won’t be banned from use, and that hybrid engines will still be sold until 2035? So in a couple of decades time, the infrastructure will be right and just as needed.
I said that's being optimistic. I don't see ICE no longer being sold in 2030Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff