Are EVs really cheaper to "fill up" than equivalent petrol?

[Ffffaster]

I can't charge at home, so would have to charge on the street and heard that's pretty much comparable to Petrol. Just wondering if owners have some real world insights.

Thanks!

[sam.rog]

If you can’t charge at home or really cheap charging in work don’t bother.

I have a tesla btw.

[limpsfield]

Ffffaster said:

I can't charge at home, so would have to charge on the street and heard that's pretty much comparable to Petrol. Just wondering if owners have some real world insights.

Thanks!

Tesla is about 45p+ a KwH or whatever the unit is. So around £35 for a full "tank" for 250/300 miles. Other third party chargers are more expensive, north of 70 I think on the odd occasion I have used them.

I've had my EV for 4 years and done 50k miles so I am a fan, but I don't know if I could be bothered if I couldn't charge at home.

[Whataguy]

I can't charge at home either, so the only real choice of EV is Tesla and their charging network.

Using only superchargers is much more expensive than home charging, but when you look at what you would pay in petrol for an equivalent 0-60 performance petrol car, it's actually not too bad.

However the non-Tesla fast chargers are a silly price at 80p+ per kW.

[kambites]

As far as I can see, running an EV on public fast chargers would be utterly nonsensical, from an economic standpoint.

[Wills2]

If you pay a tenner a month to Ionity the fee is 43p per Kw, but it all depends on how good their network is for where you live my nearest one is a 2 hour round trip away so that's a none starter.

[CrgT16]

They are only cheaper to fill on cheap EV home tariff. Failing that they can be similar if standard tariff, have less service costs but more expensive to buy. I have 2 EVs but it’s not because they are cheaper to run. Works out the same in my use case but I have some tax benefits by running them.

[James6112]

Whataguy said:

I can't charge at home either, so the only real choice of EV is Tesla and their charging network.

Using only superchargers is much more expensive than home charging, but when you look at what you would pay in petrol for an equivalent 0-60 performance petrol car, it's actually not too bad.

However the non-Tesla fast chargers are a silly price at 80p+ per kW.

Any EV can use most Tesla charging sites.
If you can see them on the app (with no registered Tesla) you can use it.
I’m using tomorrow on a 300 mile trip in my Skoda Enyaq!
Using ABRP nav, mine is set to filter Tesla only. It checks available chargers etc on the go.

[ashenfie]

Unless you can charge at work or have a nearby charge point which is not in a retail park then your not going to saving worthwhile. I just go a fine for over staying the time limit while charging. Non sensical.

[clockworks]

Charge at home is cheaper than petrol/diesel.
Charge at Tesla is about the same as petrol.
Charge on a public charger without a subscription is more expensive than petrol.

My plug-in hybrid does about 40mpg when the battery is "flat". That's about 15p a mile.

If I charge at home during the day (standard tariff) it would cost about 9p a mile.
Equivalent to 68mpg

If I charge at home overnight (Octopus Go) it costs less than 3p a mile.
Equivalent to 200mpg.

On a public charger, it could cost 30p a mile.
Equivalent to 20mpg.





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[paradigital]

James6112 said:

Any EV can use most Tesla charging sites.
If you can see them on the app (with no registered Tesla) you can use it.
I’m using tomorrow on a 300 mile trip in my Skoda Enyaq!
Using ABRP nav, mine is set to filter Tesla only. It checks available chargers etc on the go.

You can, but you pay more than a Tesla would for the same charge at the same time.

[Spare tyre]

If you can’t charge at home or work, forget it

[Tomo1971]

ashenfie said:

Unless you can charge at work or have a nearby charge point which is not in a retail park then your not going to saving worthwhile. I just go a fine for over staying the time limit while charging. Non sensical.

On most chargers on car parks, just cos your charging doesnt mean that you dont pay the parking.

Unfortunatly, they dont see that charging is an essential need and your likely to be sitting in the car waiting. I avoid chargers on car parks like the plague unless I know I can be done in the 'free' period - if have to pay parking, I would need to be desperate.

[Tomo1971]

paradigital said:

James6112 said:

Any EV can use most Tesla charging sites.
If you can see them on the app (with no registered Tesla) you can use it.
I’m using tomorrow on a 300 mile trip in my Skoda Enyaq!
Using ABRP nav, mine is set to filter Tesla only. It checks available chargers etc on the go.

You can, but you pay more than a Tesla would for the same charge at the same time.

(My Bold) Thats no longer the case, every one pays the same tesla owner or non. The saving is in the £90 year membership (or £8.99 a month) that knocks 10 to 15p off per Kw.

[off_again]

clockworks said:

Charge at home is cheaper than petrol/diesel.
Charge at Tesla is about the same as petrol.
Charge on a public charger without a subscription is more expensive than petrol.

My plug-in hybrid does about 40mpg when the battery is "flat". That's about 15p a mile.

If I charge at home during the day (standard tariff) it would cost about 9p a mile.
Equivalent to 68mpg

If I charge at home overnight (Octopus Go) it costs less than 3p a mile.
Equivalent to 200mpg.

On a public charger, it could cost 30p a mile.
Equivalent to 20mpg.

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Sounds about right. My energy costs are quite a bit different, but I am working on charging at home being about 1/2 of the cost it would be to run an economical car (30-35 MPG). The occasional charge on a different network - such as Electrify America and I am looking at about 56c / kWh. Weirdly, Tesla is up to 60c / kWh! I just checked those numbers! Weird on the Tesla one though, it was cheaper than that before, though I do know they provide variable pricing based on demand. If you charged at public only, you are still cheaper than petrol, but not by much at those prices.

As an illustration, Top Tier Premium at the local Chevron (there are cheaper places, but I would not trust them!) is $5.29 a gallon (remember US Gallon is smaller too). So those numbers check out pretty well.

I can only dream of getting my energy at 3p / 4c a kWh - literally a 1/10 of the standard home rate of electricity here!

[Nasty_Gash]

I charge from home using British Gas EV tarrif...costs about £4.50 to fill up if I did a 100% charge from empty...which will take me 300 miles.

Tesla 3 dual.

[paradigital]

Tomo1971 said:

paradigital said:

James6112 said:

Any EV can use most Tesla charging sites.
If you can see them on the app (with no registered Tesla) you can use it.
I’m using tomorrow on a 300 mile trip in my Skoda Enyaq!
Using ABRP nav, mine is set to filter Tesla only. It checks available chargers etc on the go.

You can, but you pay more than a Tesla would for the same charge at the same time.

(My Bold) Thats no longer the case, every one pays the same tesla owner or non. The saving is in the £90 year membership (or £8.99 a month) that knocks 10 to 15p off per Kw.

Not really, as a Tesla owner doesn’t have to pay £8.99/m for thr privilege of the lower cost.

[G-wiz]

My work chargers cost £0.40 per kw/h.

I've never used them.

[James6112]

paradigital said:

Tomo1971 said:

paradigital said:

James6112 said:

Any EV can use most Tesla charging sites.
If you can see them on the app (with no registered Tesla) you can use it.
I’m using tomorrow on a 300 mile trip in my Skoda Enyaq!
Using ABRP nav, mine is set to filter Tesla only. It checks available chargers etc on the go.

You can, but you pay more than a Tesla would for the same charge at the same time.

(My Bold) Thats no longer the case, every one pays the same tesla owner or non. The saving is in the £90 year membership (or £8.99 a month) that knocks 10 to 15p off per Kw.

Not really, as a Tesla owner doesn’t have to pay £8.99/m for thr privilege of the lower cost.

I rarely use as have home charger.
But still better & cheaper than most for non-Tesla owner
You’re right though, membership worth it for a high user
£8.99 peanuts in the scheme of things!

[The_Nugget]

Spare tyre said:

If you can’t charge at home or work, forget it

+1 and we have two EVs in our household. I wouldn’t want one without home charging.