Wall charger with a normal three pin plug?

Wall charger with a normal three pin plug?

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RedWhiteMonkey

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7,286 posts

189 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Where I live we have a designated space in an underground garage. The management company are offering the option of fitting wall chargers to each space. Whilst we don't have an electric car we are probably still going to get the wall charger, as it gives us more options in the future. At the moment it would actually more use if we could have a normal 240v three pin plug socket there. I assume that wall chargers use 3 phase electricity, but is possible to get a wall charger that also has a 240v three pin socket?

Mr E

22,128 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Residential wall chargers usually single phase 32 amp.
I’m not aware of one with a 3pin as well.

RedWhiteMonkey

Original Poster:

7,286 posts

189 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Mr E said:
Residential wall chargers usually single phase 32 amp.
I’m not aware of one with a 3pin as well.
Thanks, you've confirmed what I thought. Not the end of the world, but also having a "normal" socket would have been useful.

Mr E

22,128 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Could one not be put in as well?

RedWhiteMonkey

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7,286 posts

189 months

Tuesday 10th September
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I'll ask the management company if that's a possibility. I assume it depends on what exactly they are installing.

this is my username

284 posts

67 months

Tuesday 10th September
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I'd suggest getting the power cable installed and have a 3-pin socket fitted to it. Wait until you are buying an EV to have the charger installed. Chargers evolve rapidly so one installed now may not have the features you want when you acquire an EV in the future.

ZesPak

24,935 posts

203 months

Friday 13th September
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this is my username said:
I'd suggest getting the power cable installed and have a 3-pin socket fitted to it. Wait until you are buying an EV to have the charger installed. Chargers evolve rapidly so one installed now may not have the features you want when you acquire an EV in the future.
This, having the cable there gives you a lot of options.

Alternatively, we built a warehouse 20 years ago and had a 62mm 5-pin industrial plug installed, we plugged in a wall charger two years ago without any hassle. They're not made to look good though.


Toaster Pilot

14,661 posts

165 months

Friday 13th September
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Type 2 to 3 pin adaptors exist, this would allow you to power stuff from it that uses a 3 pin plug.

Gone fishing

7,471 posts

131 months

Saturday 14th September
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If you're in Europe, get them to install 16a or ideally 32a commando sockets - these are just like the power sockets you find at caravan sites and the like.

The space owner can then be responsbile for what they plug into it (which will probably please the management company as wall chargers fail and they won't want to be replacing those, and people will want different makes) and then you can either plug a wall charger into the commando socket via a fly lead, a 3 pin plug adaptor, or whatever else, and switch between them at will. You can even get portable car chargers that can have suitable adaptors to plug into the commando socket directly.

Its a win for them as they don't but have to maintain the wall chargers

It's a win for you as you can then do what you want

They need to be swtiched anyway to meet UK regs, so getting a locking sockets may sensible to stop people abusing other peoples if thats likely to happen.


smn159

13,421 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th September
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Toaster Pilot said:
Type 2 to 3 pin adaptors exist, this would allow you to power stuff from it that uses a 3 pin plug.
Presumably you'd need some way of independently turning the charger on without the car calling for it and you'd still be left with a 3 pin socket fused for 32A?

paradigital

974 posts

159 months

Saturday 14th September
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smn159 said:
Presumably you'd need some way of independently turning the charger on without the car calling for it and you'd still be left with a 3 pin socket fused for 32A?
I have never seen an adapter, but If the adapter is built correctly and sending the right signals to the pilot pin then it can both turn on the EVSA and inform it of its maximum power rate.