EV Tariff for a PHEV with no dedicated charge-point?
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MY BG contract is up soon and I'm looking to change as they've been awful - I need a night time cheap rate tariff to charge my T8. Most suppliers want / need me to have a charger it seems, currently I plug in with a 13amp plug into the external socket.
Can I get an EV tariff without having a dedicated car charge point?
Thanks
(previously posted in Volvo section)
Can I get an EV tariff without having a dedicated car charge point?
Thanks
(previously posted in Volvo section)
Octopus Go can be had without an EV or compatible charger, the four hour window was always enough to charge our Passat GTE from a granny lead.
You’d need a compatible car or charger to go for Intelligent Octopus Go (6-hour window), but if your charging is going to be daily overnight I doubt you’d need the extra two hours.
You’d need a compatible car or charger to go for Intelligent Octopus Go (6-hour window), but if your charging is going to be daily overnight I doubt you’d need the extra two hours.
I'm on Octopus Go for my XC40 T5 PHEV and 3-pin granny charger.
Go is now 5 hours of cheap rate, takes under 4 hours to fully charge my battery. I use the Volvo app to schedule the charge times.
I also do "time shifting" to make use of the cheap rate - washing machine, tumbler, dishwasher, immersion heater.
I effectively charge the car for nothing, compared to the standard Octopus tariff.
Go is now 5 hours of cheap rate, takes under 4 hours to fully charge my battery. I use the Volvo app to schedule the charge times.
I also do "time shifting" to make use of the cheap rate - washing machine, tumbler, dishwasher, immersion heater.
I effectively charge the car for nothing, compared to the standard Octopus tariff.
What you have to do is switch to the standard Octopus tariff first.
Once the switch has happened, and Octopus have got the required 30 minute readings from your smart meter for a day or two, you can then request to switch to an EV tariff.
Answer the questions about which car and charger you are using, and it will say you can't have Intelligent, but you can have Go.
Where you get the drop down list of chargers, select "no charger (3 pin plug)"
The bit about Octopus speaking to the car app is only for Intelligent Go.
Go is completely dumb ( no communication to the car or charger), it just gives you cheap electricity for everything for 5 hours.
Once the switch has happened, and Octopus have got the required 30 minute readings from your smart meter for a day or two, you can then request to switch to an EV tariff.
Answer the questions about which car and charger you are using, and it will say you can't have Intelligent, but you can have Go.
Where you get the drop down list of chargers, select "no charger (3 pin plug)"
The bit about Octopus speaking to the car app is only for Intelligent Go.
Go is completely dumb ( no communication to the car or charger), it just gives you cheap electricity for everything for 5 hours.
Edited by clockworks on Sunday 1st September 18:42
pauljdh said:
Thanks everyone,
If I try to make the on-line application, I have to pick a charger........havent got one, just a Volvo 3 pin plug lead........same from everyone?
I saw the reply that said the "Cupra app had to speak to the Octopus app"? Is that the case?
Thanks again everyone
Yes, I had to enter my cupra details in the Octopus app so it can set the delayed start time I guess.If I try to make the on-line application, I have to pick a charger........havent got one, just a Volvo 3 pin plug lead........same from everyone?
I saw the reply that said the "Cupra app had to speak to the Octopus app"? Is that the case?
Thanks again everyone
Works 95% of the time.
heisthegaffer said:
Yes, I had to enter my cupra details in the Octopus app so it can set the delayed start time I guess.
Works 95% of the time.
Slightly off topic, but my Formentor PHEV didn't fully charge the other night as the car refused access for Octopus (and the app) to protect the 12V battery, and started the ICE the next day. Works 95% of the time.
The way Intelligent Octopus starts and stops the charging to their schedule (even with concurrent timeslots) drains the 12V battery. So I have reverted to just charging 'Unintelligently' between 23:30 amd 05:30 now.
Dashnine said:
heisthegaffer said:
Yes, I had to enter my cupra details in the Octopus app so it can set the delayed start time I guess.
Works 95% of the time.
Slightly off topic, but my Formentor PHEV didn't fully charge the other night as the car refused access for Octopus (and the app) to protect the 12V battery, and started the ICE the next day. Works 95% of the time.
The way Intelligent Octopus starts and stops the charging to their schedule (even with concurrent timeslots) drains the 12V battery. So I have reverted to just charging 'Unintelligently' between 23:30 amd 05:30 now.
I use Octopus Agile, which uses a 30 minute block price structure for my Porsche Cayenne PHEV.
I’ve only had it since May, but it’s working well for us. The price varies every 30 minutes and every day. The average cost per day is around 15-19 p, but varies greatly. You really need to avoid heavy use between 4pm and 8 pm to make it worth while. The surprising thing is the electricity is often cheapest just after lunch and before 4pm, which for a PHEV can be really useful.
Frequently a couple of hours can be on 2p per unit, sometimes you are even paid to use it!
Well worth checking out.
I’ve only had it since May, but it’s working well for us. The price varies every 30 minutes and every day. The average cost per day is around 15-19 p, but varies greatly. You really need to avoid heavy use between 4pm and 8 pm to make it worth while. The surprising thing is the electricity is often cheapest just after lunch and before 4pm, which for a PHEV can be really useful.
Frequently a couple of hours can be on 2p per unit, sometimes you are even paid to use it!
Well worth checking out.
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