E-Niro or iPace
Discussion
Looking for some advise, My company has a salary sacrifice electric car scheme, now I'll be honest and say previously I've had no interest in electric cars. But a New(ish) car that comes with me just paying for "fuel" appeals ( insurance and all maintenance is included)
So I've decided to go the used route and the 2 choices could not be any more different, the First gen KIA E-Niro or a Jaguar Ipace, Cost difference is about £70 a month.
Is the Ipace worth it or not. most journeys are way less then 200 mile round trip so not to worried about range, but will also a couple of times a year taken to Devon, so about 240 miles and to Birmingham so about 150 miles. Obviously I can charge when I get there for Birmingham trips and for the longer Devon trips can charge on the way.
Other than that it will mostly be charged at home and driven locally or down to the south coast, 100 mile (ish) round trip.
Kia looks to be a 150kW 4 64kWh 5dr Auto
Jaguar will be a 294kW EV400 SE 90kWh 5dr Auto
The misses will drive it also and she is leaning towards the Kia
We have 2 kids 13 and 9 who need space in the back also if it make a difference
So I've decided to go the used route and the 2 choices could not be any more different, the First gen KIA E-Niro or a Jaguar Ipace, Cost difference is about £70 a month.
Is the Ipace worth it or not. most journeys are way less then 200 mile round trip so not to worried about range, but will also a couple of times a year taken to Devon, so about 240 miles and to Birmingham so about 150 miles. Obviously I can charge when I get there for Birmingham trips and for the longer Devon trips can charge on the way.
Other than that it will mostly be charged at home and driven locally or down to the south coast, 100 mile (ish) round trip.
Kia looks to be a 150kW 4 64kWh 5dr Auto
Jaguar will be a 294kW EV400 SE 90kWh 5dr Auto
The misses will drive it also and she is leaning towards the Kia
We have 2 kids 13 and 9 who need space in the back also if it make a difference
We have the Kia. We do a 240mile motorway drive (London to N Yorks) a few times a year, and almost always end with 30miles of range left. We also have teenage kids, and no complaints about rear seat space.
I’m sure the jag will be more exciting, but the Kia is a great, functional vehicle that does everything we need. It’s a 7yr warranty and Kia has been really good about the various bits of warranty work.
Our neighbours had the iPace. It didn’t seem to have the same usable range as the Kia, but comparisons between drivers are difficult.
£70/month is £2.5k over three years. Personally I wouldn’t pay that much more for the jag, but the Kia is probably our first non-shed!
I’m sure the jag will be more exciting, but the Kia is a great, functional vehicle that does everything we need. It’s a 7yr warranty and Kia has been really good about the various bits of warranty work.
Our neighbours had the iPace. It didn’t seem to have the same usable range as the Kia, but comparisons between drivers are difficult.
£70/month is £2.5k over three years. Personally I wouldn’t pay that much more for the jag, but the Kia is probably our first non-shed!
Theres a big ipace thread on here.
I've been considering one, but the ipace forums make interesting reading.
Lots of expensive big issues, and dealer support often very poor. I guess because many jag dealers are being dumped so dont have much incentive to look after you.
too many people reporting that the ipace spends more time at the dealers tan with them.
I've been considering one, but the ipace forums make interesting reading.
Lots of expensive big issues, and dealer support often very poor. I guess because many jag dealers are being dumped so dont have much incentive to look after you.
too many people reporting that the ipace spends more time at the dealers tan with them.
I've had both an i-pace (2019) an e-niro 4+ (2021). There is no comparison in terms of a car to drive - the i-pace is light-years ahead.
The e-niro had the better range, and was more efficient. Some owners will hate me saying this, but once you get used to it, the e-niro feels like a cheap car. Suspension, handling etc all feel budget. Our car was the 4+ so in theory had lots of kit but, despite that, it still felt cheap. In comparison, the i-pace was excellent in this regard.
But on the other hand, over three years of use, the e-niro always worked, it was 100% reliable. I can't say that about the i-pace...
I wasn't quite sure from your original post if this was going to be a car owned by the company, and hence it would be their problem if it didn't work. I'd have another i-pace, provided I didn't have to maintain it. I personally wouldn't buy a used i-pace with my own money. I would buy another e-niro with my own money, if I needed that type of car, knowing its strength and weaknesses.
The e-niro had the better range, and was more efficient. Some owners will hate me saying this, but once you get used to it, the e-niro feels like a cheap car. Suspension, handling etc all feel budget. Our car was the 4+ so in theory had lots of kit but, despite that, it still felt cheap. In comparison, the i-pace was excellent in this regard.
But on the other hand, over three years of use, the e-niro always worked, it was 100% reliable. I can't say that about the i-pace...
I wasn't quite sure from your original post if this was going to be a car owned by the company, and hence it would be their problem if it didn't work. I'd have another i-pace, provided I didn't have to maintain it. I personally wouldn't buy a used i-pace with my own money. I would buy another e-niro with my own money, if I needed that type of car, knowing its strength and weaknesses.
[quote=EddieSteadyGo]I've had both an i-pace (2019) an e-niro 4+ (2021). There is no comparison in terms of a car to drive - the i-pace is light-years ahead.
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This would effectively be a 3 year lease on a 1 -3 year old car with insurance and maintenance all included. We've looked at it from a cost point, at a base level the niro is essentially free(same rough cost as existing car plus monthly fuel, maintenance, etc) based on savings over current car costs and the Jag about £70 a month more. What you say about the niro feeling cheap is my worry having to drive it for the next 3 yrs
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This would effectively be a 3 year lease on a 1 -3 year old car with insurance and maintenance all included. We've looked at it from a cost point, at a base level the niro is essentially free(same rough cost as existing car plus monthly fuel, maintenance, etc) based on savings over current car costs and the Jag about £70 a month more. What you say about the niro feeling cheap is my worry having to drive it for the next 3 yrs
djt100 said:
This would effectively be a 3 year lease on a 1 -3 year old car with insurance and maintenance all included. We've looked at it from a cost point, at a base level the niro is essentially free(same rough cost as existing car plus monthly fuel, maintenance, etc) based on savings over current car costs and the Jag about £70 a month more. What you say about the niro feeling cheap is my worry having to drive it for the next 3 yrs
If I had the choice of leasing the two cars, and I don't have to pay for maintenance and I don't have to pay for insurance (which would be much more expensive on the i-pace), and I don't have to worry about the depreciation, and the i-pace is only £70/month more, I would get the i-pace. It's a much, much nicer car to drive around in. EddieSteadyGo said:
djt100 said:
This would effectively be a 3 year lease on a 1 -3 year old car with insurance and maintenance all included. We've looked at it from a cost point, at a base level the niro is essentially free(same rough cost as existing car plus monthly fuel, maintenance, etc) based on savings over current car costs and the Jag about £70 a month more. What you say about the niro feeling cheap is my worry having to drive it for the next 3 yrs
If I had the choice of leasing the two cars, and I don't have to pay for maintenance and I don't have to pay for insurance (which would be much more expensive on the i-pace), and I don't have to worry about the depreciation, and the i-pace is only £70/month more, I would get the i-pace. It's a much, much nicer car to drive around in. djt100 said:
Looking for some advise, My company has a salary sacrifice electric car scheme, now I'll be honest and say previously I've had no interest in electric cars. But a New(ish) car that comes with me just paying for "fuel" appeals ( insurance and all maintenance is included)
So I've decided to go the used route and the 2 choices could not be any more different, the First gen KIA E-Niro or a Jaguar Ipace, Cost difference is about £70 a month.
I'm amazed they're that close on price - although I suppose that's your after tax etc figure.So I've decided to go the used route and the 2 choices could not be any more different, the First gen KIA E-Niro or a Jaguar Ipace, Cost difference is about £70 a month.
As others have suggested the Jag is a completly different class of car - OK, the new list price was insane, but they were like £70K. And bearing in mind its maintenance and insurance costs (I usually pay £300 and got quoted £1800 for an iPace) I would have expected a much greater difference.
How much more would the later Niro EV be? The old one looks...old...now. We've more been looking at Kona and there's a big step in gen 1 and gen 2 Kona but I think Niro's are closer.
Europa Jon said:
Get the Jag - you're not going to be affected by ownership worries, and they feel far more upmarket. Long journeys in one may mean more stops than the K8a, but you'll be travelling in style.
^ This.Its a really nice car to drive, be that a cheeky bit faster around the roundabout, or shlepping along a motorway somewhere. If there's that little difference in price (and i'm not maintaing it) then Jag. Every time. Its a lovely place to spend time.
I've got the Niro EV. It's been reliable and I enjoy the electric drivetrain, the dash is decent IMO and the practicality of the package. The interior does feel a little too plasticy for my liking. I'd prefer some sort of fabric lining which can be cleaned easier rather than plastic that can pick up permanent scuff marks. I'd describe the handling as boring rather than cheap. It's capable enough on the roads but it's certainly not a drivers car.
I'm sure the iPace is nicer car but the JLR reliability reputation is a real turnoff for me.
I'm sure the iPace is nicer car but the JLR reliability reputation is a real turnoff for me.
Sheepshanks said:
I'm amazed they're that close on price - although I suppose that's your after tax etc figure.
As others have suggested the Jag is a completly different class of car - OK, the new list price was insane, but they were like £70K. And bearing in mind its maintenance and insurance costs (I usually pay £300 and got quoted £1800 for an iPace) I would have expected a much greater difference.
How much more would the later Niro EV be? The old one looks...old...now. We've more been looking at Kona and there's a big step in gen 1 and gen 2 Kona but I think Niro's are closer.
Difference in price is based on used examples so these will be 21/22 year cars, the lease on these is 250 for the kia and 318 for the jag. The New kia is 350 and the jag 980 so works out well for the jag due to huge depreciation As others have suggested the Jag is a completly different class of car - OK, the new list price was insane, but they were like £70K. And bearing in mind its maintenance and insurance costs (I usually pay £300 and got quoted £1800 for an iPace) I would have expected a much greater difference.
How much more would the later Niro EV be? The old one looks...old...now. We've more been looking at Kona and there's a big step in gen 1 and gen 2 Kona but I think Niro's are closer.
The Donald size wise inside feels a class below feels much smaller inside but that's a shame as to me a better looking car
TheDeuce said:
I'd rather push an iPace than drive a Niro 
On the basis it's not your cost/problem if the iPace lets you down, then it's a no brainer imo. And whilst some iPace's have had issues, there remains a very high chance that you won't have any issues at all with it.
On the basis it's not your cost/problem if the iPace lets you down, then it's a no brainer imo. And whilst some iPace's have had issues, there remains a very high chance that you won't have any issues at all with it.
Well, could be a problem unless the SS includes a back up car - it's usually an extra cost option. There are stories of iPace's disappearing into dealers for months.
S600BSB said:
Loved my ipace - never missed a beat in the 3 years I had it. Incredibly capable in all conditions, fast and comfortable.
I took the dog for a walk this morning and heard one backing (meep... meep... meep...) into a parking space - that's all it takes to make me miss my old iPace 
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