Id buzz - already a cult classic?
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Tried this in the VW forum but very quiet down there so giving it a go here too....
Hi everyone, looking for a new family car, whilst at the VW garage looking at the 5 and the 7 they had a buzz in the showroom.
Always loved the way these things looked and I can see they would be great for us for family duties (short range aside).
I'm surprised how well they are holding their price compared to the rest of the EV world.
Do they already have a bit of a cult following?
One thing that worries me about a nearly new EV is the depreciation but if the buzz is resisting that particular curve it could be a shrewd purchase....?
I've read the reviews understand the quirks but somehow love it all the same!
Hi everyone, looking for a new family car, whilst at the VW garage looking at the 5 and the 7 they had a buzz in the showroom.
Always loved the way these things looked and I can see they would be great for us for family duties (short range aside).
I'm surprised how well they are holding their price compared to the rest of the EV world.
Do they already have a bit of a cult following?
One thing that worries me about a nearly new EV is the depreciation but if the buzz is resisting that particular curve it could be a shrewd purchase....?
I've read the reviews understand the quirks but somehow love it all the same!
No not a cult classic.
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
bigmowley said:
No not a cult classic.
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
1st edition list price was around £65k right? And it's hard to find one for under £45k (well at least a 2 tone one). Compared to the depreciation on a taycan or an id3 it's pretty slow. List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
Obviously will depreciate more, but slower than other EV?
Chris Harris rates them.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C86nlYeOwID/?hl=en
edit: and if you scroll down in the comments, Marino Franchitti also.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C86nlYeOwID/?hl=en
edit: and if you scroll down in the comments, Marino Franchitti also.
Edited by Horsey McHorseface on Sunday 18th August 21:49
drgoatboy said:
bigmowley said:
No not a cult classic.
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
1st edition list price was around £65k right? And it's hard to find one for under £45k (well at least a 2 tone one). Compared to the depreciation on a taycan or an id3 it's pretty slow. List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
Obviously will depreciate more, but slower than other EV?
bigmowley said:
No not a cult classic.
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
That may be true, but it hasn't stopped the old air cooled buses being valuable cult classics!List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
Europa Jon said:
bigmowley said:
No not a cult classic.
List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
That may be true, but it hasn't stopped the old air cooled buses being valuable cult classics!List price circa £70K, big discounts at dealers, you can get a lightly used one for under £40K so avoid depreciation I don’t think so.
Massive, slow, inefficient and old tech. Software is still poor and the ergonomics crap, poorly packaged, etc etc. but hey ho looks great
By all means get one if it suits your needs now, but we are the stage where they’re will always be a better EV around the corner.
Get better and better offers in these all the time, and the fact that VW are incentivising used as well as new sales shows the level of desperation.
demic said:
Seen some ridiculous PCP deposit contributions on used ones through VW, upto £7200. They either can’t shift them or they are at least £7200 overpriced to start with.
Likely all VWFS end of term returns that have cost VWFS a fortune in residuals being massively the wrong way and now there are hundreds, possibly more, stuck in a field somewhere that just aren't shifting.Easily the coolest EV out there but the 1st edition that I sat in was even more AliExpress than most cars these days. I couldn’t care less about the screen, I’ve used it in other ID products, but the interior was really low rent. I believe they have lifted the quality since, though. Maybe the latest GTX is better with more power and perhaps more battery as well.
survivalist said:
This won’t be though. Think more iPhone 3G. People paying over the odds and importing when new, now about a tenner on eBay and borderline useless.
By all means get one if it suits your needs now, but we are the stage where they’re will always be a better EV around the corner.
Get better and better offers in these all the time, and the fact that VW are incentivising used as well as new sales shows the level of desperation.
I was very tempted by 0% on USED ID5 a few weeks back but just didn't have time to research it properly...By all means get one if it suits your needs now, but we are the stage where they’re will always be a better EV around the corner.
Get better and better offers in these all the time, and the fact that VW are incentivising used as well as new sales shows the level of desperation.
Wife has had hers for well over a year, done something like 20k miles in it.
Done endless long trips (of over 350 miles a day).
She absolutely loves hers, very practical, much more spacious inside than a SUV, and similar size outside.
Massive low flat boot, fits two big dog crates with ease.
Hers is a two tone first edition, cost £66k, I’v seen a few on trade only sites, 1 year old etc for £44k.
So hers has probably lost £28k in 16 or so months - £1,750 a month
Only issue with hers is the vegan steering wheel leather has fallen apart (common problem).
Done endless long trips (of over 350 miles a day).
She absolutely loves hers, very practical, much more spacious inside than a SUV, and similar size outside.
Massive low flat boot, fits two big dog crates with ease.
Hers is a two tone first edition, cost £66k, I’v seen a few on trade only sites, 1 year old etc for £44k.
So hers has probably lost £28k in 16 or so months - £1,750 a month
Only issue with hers is the vegan steering wheel leather has fallen apart (common problem).
Edited by Wilmslowboy on Monday 19th August 05:20
Leithen said:
The rear seats in a supermini are more versatile. Utterly ridiculous lost opportunity. I'd like to drive a first edition Renault Espace into VW's design studio and make them hold every design meeting seated in the back of it. Idiots.
The packaging is weirdly bad. It's as though building on the MEB platform drove various poor choices - it's not really a van just a SUV with a van shaped shell draped over it. It's as long as our T5 California beach but with substantially less interior flexibility or space.drgoatboy said:
demic said:
Seen some ridiculous PCP deposit contributions on used ones through VW, upto £7200. They either can’t shift them or they are at least £7200 overpriced to start with.
Assume thats on new?Crazy money new. Wouldn't be doing that for sure...
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