Polestar Model 2 - tyre life

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HughG

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3,612 posts

248 months

Friday 16th August
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I'm about to sign up for a Polestar Model 2 single motor, long range via lease. I have maintained and non-maintained options and am trying to work out whether it is worth the £73/month extra. It's a 300hp, 2T RWD car so suspect tyre life may not be brilliant! At the moment I'm using 15k miles for the rear, and 25k miles for the front in my calculations.

Does anyone have any real world experience in a RWD model 2?

FamousPheasant

639 posts

123 months

Friday 16th August
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What is your annual mileage? £73 per month is a lot of tyres!

raspy

1,796 posts

101 months

Friday 16th August
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Check the T&Cs of any maintained packages on a lease. I considered a maintained lease with Alphabet for a BMW but decided non-maintained because Alphabet would only replace tyres when they are down to 2mm of tread, and I tend to replace mine when they get down to around 3mm.


Basil Brush

5,228 posts

270 months

Friday 16th August
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FamousPheasant said:
What is your annual mileage? £73 per month is a lot of tyres!
It's about 1 set a year for the PS marked ones.

Is it going to be on 19" or 20" wheels?

HughG

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Mileage is 20k/yr, 4 year lease. Total extra for maintained lease is £3,650.

It’ll be on 19s. Thanks for the heads up on depth at which they’ll replace, I will find out.

Some guesstimates of what it would cost me for maintenance:

Servicing is every 20k mls so annual, 1st service free, so need to pay for 2nd and 3rd service, assumed £300ea = £600.
It's a pre-reg car so will need 2 MOTs in my time = £100
Front tyres, 25k mls, so will need 2/3 sets - £185/tyre = £1,110
Rear tyres 15k mls, so will need 4/5 sets - £185/tyre = £1,850

The total of that lot just exceeds the maintained costs. If I’m slightly over the mileage it’ll need a 4th service. I haven’t taken anything for brakes.

HughG

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£185/tyre was based on Goodyear F1s from Blackcircles, the only POL Polestar approved ones are Michelin Primacy 4 ST DT Acoustic @ £262ea.
Assuming my tyre life assumptions are sensible then it's a no-brainer to go for the maintained deal, I will check that they will use POL rated tyres and at what depth they'll accept the change.

TheRainMaker

6,628 posts

249 months

Friday 16th August
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We have a three-year-old 400+bhp model with around 25000 miles on it.

I was bored just now, so I went out and measured them hehe

Front Left 4mm
Front Right 5mm
Rear Left 5mm
Rear Right 5mm






PetrolHeadInRecovery

152 posts

22 months

Friday 16th August
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Just to add oranges to an apple discussion:

I think we have about 25k miles on the summer tyres on Ioniq 5 AWD and they look better than ones on the previous one (diesel bus with 177bhp) after half the distance. Haven't measured the thread, there must be some wear - but it is so even the tyres look newish.

Only 200 odd hp going to the rear, not driving like a saint but, admittedly, nobody will assume I stole the car either.

But I think the torque is managed much more smoothly than with an ICE that even somewhat spirited driving with the TC on will be easy on the tyres (TC on, you need to almost floor the accelerator on gravel to hear a bit of slip that is almost impossible to avoid with 2WD ICE).

HughG

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Friday 16th August
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TheRainMaker said:
We have a three-year-old 400+bhp model with around 25000 miles on it.

I was bored just now, so I went out and measured them hehe

Front Left 4mm
Front Right 5mm
Rear Left 5mm
Rear Right 5mm
Original tyres?

TheRainMaker

6,628 posts

249 months

Friday 16th August
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HughG said:
TheRainMaker said:
We have a three-year-old 400+bhp model with around 25000 miles on it.

I was bored just now, so I went out and measured them hehe

Front Left 4mm
Front Right 5mm
Rear Left 5mm
Rear Right 5mm
Original tyres?
Yep thumbup

HughG

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Friday 16th August
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PetrolHeadInRecovery said:
Just to add oranges to an apple discussion:

I think we have about 25k miles on the summer tyres on Ioniq 5 AWD and they look better than ones on the previous one (diesel bus with 177bhp) after half the distance. Haven't measured the thread, there must be some wear - but it is so even the tyres look newish.

Only 200 odd hp going to the rear, not driving like a saint but, admittedly, nobody will assume I stole the car either.

But I think the torque is managed much more smoothly than with an ICE that even somewhat spirited driving with the TC on will be easy on the tyres (TC on, you need to almost floor the accelerator on gravel to hear a bit of slip that is almost impossible to avoid with 2WD ICE).
This will replace a Renault Zoe, which is 135hp, fwd, 1500kg. Fronts on that lasted 20k, and the rears were then changed to the front and lasted to 30k (so effectively 40k life on the back). It's very easy to spin the fronts pulling out of a junction with that with EV torque and FWD.

HughG

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Friday 16th August
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TheRainMaker said:
HughG said:
TheRainMaker said:
We have a three-year-old 400+bhp model with around 25000 miles on it.

I was bored just now, so I went out and measured them hehe

Front Left 4mm
Front Right 5mm
Rear Left 5mm
Rear Right 5mm
Original tyres?
Yep thumbup
Wowser, maybe 35+k a set then. Thank you

Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Friday 16th August
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HughG said:
This will replace a Renault Zoe, which is 135hp, fwd, 1500kg. Fronts on that lasted 20k, and the rears were then changed to the front and lasted to 30k (so effectively 40k life on the back). It's very easy to spin the fronts pulling out of a junction with that with EV torque and FWD.
Surely the superior EV traction control algorithm stops the front wheels spinning?

HughG

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Kawasicki said:
HughG said:
This will replace a Renault Zoe, which is 135hp, fwd, 1500kg. Fronts on that lasted 20k, and the rears were then changed to the front and lasted to 30k (so effectively 40k life on the back). It's very easy to spin the fronts pulling out of a junction with that with EV torque and FWD.
Surely the superior EV traction control algorithm stops the front wheels spinning?
It certainly doesn't meter the power to limit slip like superior EVs are supposed to. It feels very similar to a conventional ICE FWD would, but I couldn't tell you how it would behave if you kept your foot in when it was spinning.

Basil Brush

5,228 posts

270 months

Friday 16th August
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TheRainMaker said:
We have a three-year-old 400+bhp model with around 25000 miles on it.

I was bored just now, so I went out and measured them hehe

Front Left 4mm
Front Right 5mm
Rear Left 5mm
Rear Right 5mm
My DMPP car has just had it's third set fitted at just over 30k miles.

PetrolHeadInRecovery

152 posts

22 months

Friday 16th August
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HughG said:
This will replace a Renault Zoe, which is 135hp, fwd, 1500kg. Fronts on that lasted 20k, and the rears were then changed to the front and lasted to 30k (so effectively 40k life on the back). It's very easy to spin the fronts pulling out of a junction with that with EV torque and FWD.
RWD might still benefit from weight transfer to the driven wheels. TC algorithms might have developed/tuned differently since Zoe was built.

But this is a) obvious and b) pure speculation on my part.

HughG

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248 months

Friday 16th August
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Yes - and the driven wheels don't have to steer at the same time.

thecremeegg

2,019 posts

210 months

Friday 16th August
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Not an Polestar but I've gone through a set and a half in my BMW i4 since April last year - 20k miles.

nute

756 posts

114 months

Friday 16th August
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I have dual motor long range which I bought used 6 weeks ago. It had 13k miles on it and the fronts were around 2mm. Just changed them for Conti Prem 6's are £220/wheel - oem on the 2021's.

Still 4mm left on the backs.

I guess it comes down to how you drive it - the prev owner must have had a heavy right foot.

Grandad Gaz

5,166 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th August
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Ours was serviced a few months ago at 40K. It's now on 46K with quite a bit of tread left.
I will be surprised if we can't get 60K+ out of a set.

We live in North Norfolk, so not many straight roads around here either!