Powering devices in an EV via a 3 pin plug?
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kambites said:
There's two ways you can do it:
Some EVs have a three-pin plug somewhere in the cabin.
Some EVs have an adapter you can plug into the charge port.
Many EVs have neither facility.
Some have both options (Hyundai/KIA/Genesis E-GMP platform cars). IIRC, you could use both at the same time (6.8kW combined power in 220/230V markets). Have personally tried only one at the time, though.Some EVs have a three-pin plug somewhere in the cabin.
Some EVs have an adapter you can plug into the charge port.
Many EVs have neither facility.
kambites said:
There's two ways you can do it:
Some EVs have a three-pin plug somewhere in the cabin.
Some EVs have an adapter you can plug into the charge port.
Many EVs have neither facility.
4 ways.Some EVs have a three-pin plug somewhere in the cabin.
Some EVs have an adapter you can plug into the charge port.
Many EVs have neither facility.
Car has a 3-pin port inside (Honda E, Niro etc)
Car has a V2L adapter outside (EV6, MG ZS etc)
12V to 240AC inverter, bought off the shelf. Low power, plug and play.
Hardwired 240VAC inverter to the 12V battery that is repoeered by the traction battery in use (Niro has a "utility mode" that prevents drive but allows full systems power indefinitely).
Cheers all. It appears my car does not support V2L, so that's a none starter.
HTP99 said:
Seems utterly pointless to me
I'll be in the car all day tomorrow working on my laptop as my wife drives to camping. I'd like to charge said laptop once we get there so I can watch the footy on Sat night. Guess I'll just have to go to the pub to watch it instead. I guess it's not that common an occurrence.Evanivitch said:
12V to 240AC inverter, bought off the shelf. Low power, plug and play.
Hardwired 240VAC inverter to the 12V battery that is repoeered by the traction battery in use (Niro has a "utility mode" that prevents drive but allows full systems power indefinitely).
Well yeah OK but those two work on ICE vehicles as well (although you'd have to keep the engine running I guess). Hardwired 240VAC inverter to the 12V battery that is repoeered by the traction battery in use (Niro has a "utility mode" that prevents drive but allows full systems power indefinitely).
HTP99 said:
Seems utterly pointless to me...
I guess it's quite niche but I could see it being useful for people who regularly go camping, for example. It would certainly have been useful for running tools when one of my lodgers used to run a racing car in a very amateur racing series, although I don't think any EV would really cope with towing the racing car around. For me I guess it's one of those "I might use it once or twice a year if I had it, but I wouldn't base my buying decision on it".
Edited by kambites on Thursday 4th July 17:37
JQ said:
Cheers all. It appears my car does not support V2L, so that's a none starter.
With the risk of eliminating the reason to go to the pub, would a 12V -> 240V inverter work? I see the 12V output marked as 180W, so a laptop charger might be at the limit - but perhaps cars without V2L would have higher 12V output?HTP99 said:
Seems utterly pointless to me
I'll be in the car all day tomorrow working on my laptop as my wife drives to camping. I'd like to charge said laptop once we get there so I can watch the footy on Sat night. Guess I'll just have to go to the pub to watch it instead. I guess it's not that common an occurrence.My wife has had a few 1000km office days using the V2L. Running a vacuum cleaner has been another pointless use case.
PetrolHeadInRecovery said:
With the risk of eliminating the reason to go to the pub, would a 12V -> 240V inverter work? I see the 12V output marked as 180W, so a laptop charger might be at the limit - but perhaps cars without V2L would have higher 12V output?
My wife has had a few 1000km office days using the V2L. Running a vacuum cleaner has been another pointless use case.
MG V2L is 7000W.My wife has had a few 1000km office days using the V2L. Running a vacuum cleaner has been another pointless use case.
kambites said:
Evanivitch said:
12V to 240AC inverter, bought off the shelf. Low power, plug and play.
Hardwired 240VAC inverter to the 12V battery that is repoeered by the traction battery in use (Niro has a "utility mode" that prevents drive but allows full systems power indefinitely).
Well yeah OK but those two work on ICE vehicles as well (although you'd have to keep the engine running I guess). Hardwired 240VAC inverter to the 12V battery that is repoeered by the traction battery in use (Niro has a "utility mode" that prevents drive but allows full systems power indefinitely).
kambites said:
Evanivitch said:
MG V2L is 7000W.
Not with the MG adapter it's not because it has a standard 3-pin plug on the output which is only rated to 13 amps. 
Are type-2 V2L adapters standard? Ie can you buy a "generic" one and expect it to work on any type-2 car which supports V2L?
To get 7kW you effectively change a jumper cable in an EV charge cable.
https://www.speakev.com/threads/mg4-rocking-7kw-v2...
So yeah, running your house (as an island) off your EV battery.
JQ said:
I'll be in the car all day tomorrow working on my laptop as my wife drives to camping. I'd like to charge said laptop once we get there so I can watch the footy on Sat night. Guess I'll just have to go to the pub to watch it instead. I guess it's not that common an occurrence.
Sorry if I have missed something hugely obvious, but why can't you just plug your laptop into the USB sockets in your car? I just plug my laptops into the USB sockets in the car, and they charge?
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