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As you are (rightly) concerned with cost, switch your tariff to Octopus Intelligent and choose a charger from their preferred range.
https://octopus.energy/get-an-ev-charger/
Message me for a referral code if you want £50 off
Octopus also provide the Electroverse card for public charging.
https://octopus.energy/get-an-ev-charger/
Message me for a referral code if you want £50 off
Octopus also provide the Electroverse card for public charging.
gmaz said:
As you are (rightly) concerned with cost, switch your tariff to Octopus Intelligent and choose a charger from their preferred range.
https://octopus.energy/get-an-ev-charger/
Message me for a referral code if you want £50 off
Octopus also provide the Electroverse card for public charging.
The Electroverse card mentioned above is _very_ good. Seems to cover the vast majority of public chargers.https://octopus.energy/get-an-ev-charger/
Message me for a referral code if you want £50 off
Octopus also provide the Electroverse card for public charging.
My default position is to continue to recommend the MyEnergi Zappi, especially if you may consider (or already have) solar.
Can be used without an app or internet connection if that’s important to you, can be locked by PIN entry if it’s going to be installed on an external wall, can be scheduled to charge outside of peak times but also be scheduled (or manually set to) boost when required.
Most (all?) EVs can be fed your tariff rates to show you charging costs, though as of yet I’ve been stumped by the fact that most of my charging is £0 rate (excess solar generation), the Tesla app for instance has no way to input £0 value charging rates, so my costs in the Tesla app are artificially higher than they are in real life, showing that it costs me 0.01p/KWh rather than 0p.
Can be used without an app or internet connection if that’s important to you, can be locked by PIN entry if it’s going to be installed on an external wall, can be scheduled to charge outside of peak times but also be scheduled (or manually set to) boost when required.
Most (all?) EVs can be fed your tariff rates to show you charging costs, though as of yet I’ve been stumped by the fact that most of my charging is £0 rate (excess solar generation), the Tesla app for instance has no way to input £0 value charging rates, so my costs in the Tesla app are artificially higher than they are in real life, showing that it costs me 0.01p/KWh rather than 0p.
I've had an Andersen A2 for over 4.5 years. Looks great with the cable hidden, a good app, is very well built and they now have a 7 year warranty. It can also integrate with your solar.
They have just introduced a smaller version called the A3 which is slightly cheaper.
If aesthetics are inportant, it is a great option.
They have an online configurator too, offer installation and even monthly payments.
Just a thought.
www.andersen-ev.com.
They have just introduced a smaller version called the A3 which is slightly cheaper.
If aesthetics are inportant, it is a great option.
They have an online configurator too, offer installation and even monthly payments.
Just a thought.
www.andersen-ev.com.
gmaz said:
As you are (rightly) concerned with cost, switch your tariff to Octopus Intelligent
I would do the maths before you did so.I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
SpidersWeb said:
I would do the maths before you did so.
I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
Out of interest, do you know what your average p/kwh for your entire electricity usage has been (either for a calendar month or since you switched). I’m on intelligent, but as I’ve got a solar PV with battery, outside of the depths of winter (or atrocious weather), I’m essentially only using the grid “off-peak” other than spikes that go above my 5KW inverter’s output. Last month’s average p/KWh was 7.72p/KWh.I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
paradigital said:
SpidersWeb said:
I would do the maths before you did so.
I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
Out of interest, do you know what your average p/kwh for your entire electricity usage has been (either for a calendar month or since you switched). I’m on intelligent, but as I’ve got a solar PV with battery, outside of the depths of winter (or atrocious weather), I’m essentially only using the grid “off-peak” other than spikes that go above my 5KW inverter’s output. Last month’s average p/KWh was 7.72p/KWh.I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
Intelligent would have been an average of 14.5p/kWh - hence my recommendation to do the maths before choosing it by default.
SpidersWeb said:
paradigital said:
SpidersWeb said:
I would do the maths before you did so.
I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
Out of interest, do you know what your average p/kwh for your entire electricity usage has been (either for a calendar month or since you switched). I’m on intelligent, but as I’ve got a solar PV with battery, outside of the depths of winter (or atrocious weather), I’m essentially only using the grid “off-peak” other than spikes that go above my 5KW inverter’s output. Last month’s average p/KWh was 7.72p/KWh.I was on the Octopus Intelligent (and prior to that the Go tariff) for some years, but changed to Octopus Agile a while ago.
I was concerned that Agile would prove to be more expensive so have been monitoring the cost of Agile in a spreadsheet against Intelligent and Tracker (I use the assumption in my calculations that whenever I charge my car then Intelligent would have given the cheaper rate and use that in the calculations - obviously I have no idea whether it would have been but it gives the best result for Intelligent).
However so far this year Intelligent would have been 50% more expensive than Agile - yes 50% more expensive! Even the flat daily rate Tracker would have been cheaper at only 35% more expensive than Agile.
Thus I would suggest that anyone considering using Intelligent actually does the maths rather than just assume that the Octopus EV tariff Intelligent is the cheapest tariff if they have an EV - it very well might not be.
Intelligent would have been an average of 14.5p/kWh - hence my recommendation to do the maths before choosing it by default.
Another vote for Octopus from me, and their range of chargers.
I went for the compact version, which is really quite small and sports a grand total of no screens and three lights, making it inobtrusive. All the data you might want is on their app.
https://octopus.energy/order/ev-charger/products/o...
Regarding the various different tariffs, it's complicated to work out what is "best" ie: cheapest for you, especially as you don't have any real world usage data for your EV yet. Agile can work for some people, but equally the upsides can easily be overcome by downsides, and what works for one situation won't for another. My recommendation would be start simple, with Octopus Go, which gives you four hours every night to charge and reconsider in six-twelve months.
And again, an Electroverse card is an absolute no-brainer and basically opens up a massive and simple charging network (UK and Europe) to you.
I went for the compact version, which is really quite small and sports a grand total of no screens and three lights, making it inobtrusive. All the data you might want is on their app.
https://octopus.energy/order/ev-charger/products/o...
Regarding the various different tariffs, it's complicated to work out what is "best" ie: cheapest for you, especially as you don't have any real world usage data for your EV yet. Agile can work for some people, but equally the upsides can easily be overcome by downsides, and what works for one situation won't for another. My recommendation would be start simple, with Octopus Go, which gives you four hours every night to charge and reconsider in six-twelve months.
And again, an Electroverse card is an absolute no-brainer and basically opens up a massive and simple charging network (UK and Europe) to you.
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