EVCP annual inspection?

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Paul Drawmer

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4,962 posts

274 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I had a Zappi installed about a year ago.

Had this in the inbox today.


"Please find attached our Quote for the EV Charge Point annual service

With the possible high use of your charge point it is highly recommended to have a service check every year. The annual service will check the condition of your equipment and provide you with an updated EICR for the electric vehicle charge point. The EIC issued at the time of the installation recommends further inspection and testing after 1 year."




OK, if I was running a hotel, then it makes sense. But for domestic? Really?

Europa Jon

581 posts

130 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Who sent it? They're feeky chuckers if you ask me!

paradigital

974 posts

159 months

Wednesday 5th June
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£85 + VAT for someone to literally look at your EVSE to determine that it’s visibly OK, then plug it into a car and make sure it works?

Don’t you do that daily anyway?

TooLateForAName

4,841 posts

191 months

Wednesday 5th June
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To be fair, I think it may be worth getting someone to open it up and check no sign of overheating connectors or wires.

still a bit cheeky though.

Paul Drawmer

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4,962 posts

274 months

Thursday 6th June
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TooLateForAName said:
To be fair, I think it may be worth getting someone to open it up and check no sign of overheating connectors or wires.

still a bit cheeky though.
That might be better, but this quote is for a visual inspection.

No ideas for a name

2,408 posts

93 months

Thursday 6th June
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Paul Drawmer said:
That might be better, but this quote is for a visual inspection.
You are picking one line out of their quote.
It also says they will provide an EICR for the equipment... which will invlove some tests/measurements.

Of course, a properly installed EVSE shouldn't have deteriorated in the 12 months since it was installed, but it depends on the customer's abitity to notice any issues. It is also not mandatory - seems like a perfectly reasonable offer, with no apparent pressure to take it up.
To get someone to come out to your property, with the required test equipment, and put their name to a certificate, I think £85 is pretty good.

Personally, I wouldn't feel the need to take them up on their offer though.
Almost no one has an EICR done unless they are about to sell their house.

IANAE

autumnsum

435 posts

38 months

Thursday 6th June
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'Please find our speculative, fishing expedition of an invoice which we hope you will pay without really looking in to it'.

Aunty Pasty

729 posts

45 months

Thursday 6th June
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Is the email from Zappi or the installer?

TheDeuce

25,227 posts

73 months

Thursday 6th June
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No ideas for a name said:
Paul Drawmer said:
That might be better, but this quote is for a visual inspection.
You are picking one line out of their quote.
It also says they will provide an EICR for the equipment... which will invlove some tests/measurements.

Of course, a properly installed EVSE shouldn't have deteriorated in the 12 months since it was installed, but it depends on the customer's abitity to notice any issues. It is also not mandatory - seems like a perfectly reasonable offer, with no apparent pressure to take it up.
To get someone to come out to your property, with the required test equipment, and put their name to a certificate, I think £85 is pretty good.

Personally, I wouldn't feel the need to take them up on their offer though.
Almost no one has an EICR done unless they are about to sell their house.

IANAE
Indeed, the price for EICR isn't bad at all, but it is unnecessary and they're clearly fishing for business - perhaps they're going through a quiet spell..

Whatever, just ignore it. The installation hasn't been altered, there's no requirement in a domestic setting to have an EICR carried out annually. There's also no real reason why you would have one on the charger and circuit more than you would have one on any other part of the permanent installation that is your homes wiring.

As above, if one day you sell list the house for sale, get an electrical cert for the entire house then.

georgeyboy12345

3,645 posts

42 months

Thursday 6th June
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That’s ridiculous. Tell em to get fked.

Paul Drawmer

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4,962 posts

274 months

Thursday 6th June
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The same installer pushed very hard for me to pay them to do an EICR before doing the installation last year. Told me porkies about insurance requirements to try and frighten me into it. I used to sell home insurance, and there was NO mention of an EICR in their home insurance documentation.

I'll not be taking up this offer either.

As a separate issue; I have sometimes wondered about the life of the tethered cable in those situations where it gets uncoiled all the way and coiled up again on a regular basis. I've got 2 loose turns that haven't moved off the Zappi in a year.

No ideas for a name

2,408 posts

93 months

Thursday 6th June
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Paul Drawmer said:
... I've got 2 loose turns that haven't moved off the Zappi in a year.
Technical point that most people will ignore.
Technically you shouldn't have any loops whilst using a high(ish) current cable - you get a heating effect. I can't see it being a major problem if just a couple of loose turns though.


4Q

3,481 posts

151 months

Thursday 6th June
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Paul Drawmer said:
The same installer pushed very hard for me to pay them to do an EICR before doing the installation last year. Told me porkies about insurance requirements to try and frighten me into it. I used to sell home insurance, and there was NO mention of an EICR in their home insurance documentation.

I'll not be taking up this offer either.

As a separate issue; I have sometimes wondered about the life of the tethered cable in those situations where it gets uncoiled all the way and coiled up again on a regular basis. I've got 2 loose turns that haven't moved off the Zappi in a year.
We have to replace the cables at work annually although they are used every day. It’s because people don’t uncoil and coil back up properly which puts twists in the cable and snaps the data cable inside. I’m tired of bking the staff who use them but nothing changes. I’ve warned them I will be splitting the costs of new cables with them next time as they’re over £200 each due to being 15m long.

No ideas for a name

2,408 posts

93 months

Thursday 6th June
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4Q said:
We have to replace the cables at work annually although they are used every day. It’s because people don’t uncoil and coil back up properly which puts twists in the cable and snaps the data cable inside. I’m tired of bking the staff who use them but nothing changes. I’ve warned them I will be splitting the costs of new cables with them next time as they’re over £200 each due to being 15m long.
It should be a jailable offence, not being able to coil a cable or a hose without getting twists in it.
I present as evidence - the vacuum cleaner cable that Mrs NIFAN manages to tangle.