EV with real 300+ mile range?

[matt21]

Looking for an electric car that will do 300 motorway miles on one charge. This is for a monthly 280 mile round trip where it would not be convenient to charge at the destination. I know I could charge enroute, but for cost and simplicity would prefer to charge at home.

A new Tesla M3LR or some of the late Model S models have 400 miles WTLP range which I’m sure is over stated. But even in winter will they reliably do 300 miles plus?

Anything else for around £40-45k max?

Thanks!

[Gary C]

Dont bother with a Peugeot 2008

Drove from Preston to Heysham and back, used 50% of the range

Its only 60 miles !

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

matt21 said:

Looking for an electric car that will do 300 motorway miles on one charge. This is for a monthly 280 mile round trip where it would not be convenient to charge at the destination. I know I could charge enroute, but for cost and simplicity would prefer to charge at home.

A new Tesla M3LR or some of the late Model S models have 400 miles WTLP range which I’m sure is over stated. But even in winter will they reliably do 300 miles plus?

Anything else for around £40-45k max?

Thanks!

There are simply too many variables in play to give you a sure answer. Maybe you could go for a worst case scenario. Fully loaded car, - 20 degrees outside, heaters on inside, doing 70 MPH on motorway at night. I don't think you could get any mainstream cars to do more than 200 miles in that scenario.

Just to add that there's a few long range EV listicles on the usual websites e.g.
https://www.whatcar.com/best/longest-range-electri...

[TheDeuce]

matt21 said:

Looking for an electric car that will do 300 motorway miles on one charge. This is for a monthly 280 mile round trip where it would not be convenient to charge at the destination. I know I could charge enroute, but for cost and simplicity would prefer to charge at home.

A new Tesla M3LR or some of the late Model S models have 400 miles WTLP range which I’m sure is over stated. But even in winter will they reliably do 300 miles plus?

Anything else for around £40-45k max?

Thanks!

Th LR Tesla's will do it all year if not driven over 70ish on the motorway.

Out of interest do you not stop at all along the drive? There are loads of EV's that would do the journey for the sake of a 5-10 minute rapid charge and quite a few of those would do it without worrying in the least about how you drive/speed etc.

The cost to add 100 miles at rapid charger is £20 and takes ten minutes. Or £240 per year in public charging, for perspective, based on your monthly trips.

[LordFlathead]

TheDeuce said:

matt21 said:

Looking for an electric car that will do 300 motorway miles on one charge. This is for a monthly 280 mile round trip where it would not be convenient to charge at the destination. I know I could charge enroute, but for cost and simplicity would prefer to charge at home.

A new Tesla M3LR or some of the late Model S models have 400 miles WTLP range which I’m sure is over stated. But even in winter will they reliably do 300 miles plus?

Anything else for around £40-45k max?

Thanks!

Th LR Tesla's will do it all year if not driven over 70ish on the motorway.

Out of interest do you not stop at all along the drive? There are loads of EV's that would do the journey for the sake of a 5-10 minute rapid charge and quite a few of those would do it without worrying in the least about how you drive/speed etc.

The cost to add 100 miles at rapid charger is £20 and takes ten minutes. Or £240 per year in public charging, for perspective, based on your monthly trips.

This. if you have a Tesla you know you only have to sit at a charger for 10 minutes for splash and dash or 20 minutes for an extra 100 miles. Charging rates are around 40p-50p max so cheaper than anyone else. If you are serious about using an EV for distance, Tesla is the only sensible choice IMO.

[TheDeuce]

LordFlathead said:

TheDeuce said:

matt21 said:

Looking for an electric car that will do 300 motorway miles on one charge. This is for a monthly 280 mile round trip where it would not be convenient to charge at the destination. I know I could charge enroute, but for cost and simplicity would prefer to charge at home.

A new Tesla M3LR or some of the late Model S models have 400 miles WTLP range which I’m sure is over stated. But even in winter will they reliably do 300 miles plus?

Anything else for around £40-45k max?

Thanks!

Th LR Tesla's will do it all year if not driven over 70ish on the motorway.

Out of interest do you not stop at all along the drive? There are loads of EV's that would do the journey for the sake of a 5-10 minute rapid charge and quite a few of those would do it without worrying in the least about how you drive/speed etc.

The cost to add 100 miles at rapid charger is £20 and takes ten minutes. Or £240 per year in public charging, for perspective, based on your monthly trips.

This. if you have a Tesla you know you only have to sit at a charger for 10 minutes for splash and dash or 20 minutes for an extra 100 miles. Charging rates are around 40p-50p max so cheaper than anyone else. If you are serious about using an EV for distance, Tesla is the only sensible choice IMO.

Honestly, there are so many rapid+ chargers these days that I think I could do a 300 mile trip without more than a 15 minute charge in my i4 M50, and no hassle.

The LR Tesla would/would nearly do the trip in one hit but... being realistic I would stop for 10-15 minutes even if I was driving a diesel so it's no big deal for me. Even if I didn't want to stop, I think I'd still rather have a short stop once a month for the sake of having an EV I really like as opposed to choosing one I don't really like, purely because it has the range to not need to charge on a specific trip.

10-15 miuntes once a month? That's 2-3 hours a year of 'effort' in order to have a choice of any decent EV as opposed to just one brand.
Not anti Tesla btw, but the drive and interior aren't to everyone's tastes.

[raspy]

What a used EQE 350+? You can get a low mileage 2022 model from a MB dealer for just under £45k

I would suggest test driving one to see what kind of miles they get on the motorway when "you" drive it.

On further thoughts, you can pick up a 2022 EQS 450+ for a shade under £50k from MB dealer (and I suspect you could offer far less given they are not popular cars) and that would easily do 300 miles on the motorway even in winter.

Edited by raspy on Friday 17th May 07:07

[TheRainMaker]

TheDeuce said:

The cost to add 100 miles at rapid charger is £20 and takes ten minutes.

Ten minutes for 100 miles some might, in perfect summer conditions, with a charger giving out full power.

Most EVs won't come close to that. Realistically, 20-30 mins would be a safe bet.

[TheDeuce]

TheRainMaker said:

Ten minutes for 100 miles some might, in perfect summer conditions, with a charger giving out full power.

Most EVs won't come close to that. Realistically, 20-30 mins would be a safe bet.

Even an EV that can only accept 150kw charge speed is charging at 450mph, which would be 13 mins.

Ten would be 200kw.

There can't be many recent EV's that can't charge at 150kw+? Unless we're going to include smaller city cars that you wouldn't want to do a 300 mile trip in anyway.

[Road2Ruin]

Our Skoda Enyaq would probably do it. Not sure I would want to though, without a quick 30 min squirt to top up mid way.

[ChocolateFrog]

If you worked on an absolute worst case of 2.5 miles per kwh then the only one I can think of that would just about guarantee 300 miles would be a EQS.

That's off the top of my head though and doesn't factor in that Tesla's tend to be a bit more efficient.

[SWoll]

TheDeuce said:

The LR Tesla would/would nearly do the trip in one hit but... being realistic I would stop for 10-15 minutes even if I was driving a diesel so it's no big deal for me.

It's a 140 mile each way round trip with a stopover in between. I'd imagine most would do each leg without stopping in an ICE car?

[samoht]

Merc EQS450 should reliably do the 280 miles at 70mph even in winter, start from £50k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405059...
I guess it would be a nice place to spend the time also.

[theboss]

samoht said:

Merc EQS450 should reliably do the 280 miles at 70mph even in winter, start from £50k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405059...
I guess it would be a nice place to spend the time also.

Hard to argue with that. Just the job.

[Shabaza]

MY 24 Polestar 2 (aka current gen) should do 300 comfortably.

More so the long range single motor.
(WLTP is 400+ miles, but ignore that, I've been getting 300-350 miles)

They can also use tesla superchargers in their own app and at discounted rate compared to public.

But honestly speaking, Id probably try get a Model S 100D if it was a used purchase

[Muzzer79]

SWoll said:

TheDeuce said:

The LR Tesla would/would nearly do the trip in one hit but... being realistic I would stop for 10-15 minutes even if I was driving a diesel so it's no big deal for me.

It's a 140 mile each way round trip with a stopover in between. I'd imagine most would do each leg without stopping in an ICE car?

Agreed

140 miles, mostly motorway, is what - just over 2 hours?

I wouldn't be stopping on that journey in an ICE car.

I'm currently running a VW ID5. It's a solid 300 mile range with the climate control off and reasonably warm weather, but it dips to 280-290 on the motorway so would be too fine a margin in winter for a 280 mile round trip.

If you have a good personal business case with an EV, I'd look to splash and dash on a public charger for a few minutes if you're able to en route.

[SWoll]

theboss said:

samoht said:

Merc EQS450 should reliably do the 280 miles at 70mph even in winter, start from £50k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405059...
I guess it would be a nice place to spend the time also.

Hard to argue with that. Just the job.

Other than being 10-20% over budget for a single high mileage example? Most are priced at £55-60k for early cars.

Well within budget and more likely to manage the task than a Model 3 LR.

[TheDeuce]

SWoll said:

TheDeuce said:

The LR Tesla would/would nearly do the trip in one hit but... being realistic I would stop for 10-15 minutes even if I was driving a diesel so it's no big deal for me.

It's a 140 mile each way round trip with a stopover in between. I'd imagine most would do each leg without stopping in an ICE car?

Yes good point. Although as I said in a later post, it's a 10-15 minute stop once a month, it's less than the cumulative time spent fueling a diesel for an entire year.

I don't know why people stress about charging time/cost unless it's very regular tbh

[SWoll]

TheDeuce said:

Yes good point. Although as I said in a later post, it's a 10-15 minute stop once a month, it's less than the cumulative time spent fueling a diesel for an entire year.

I don't know why people stress about charging time/cost unless it's very regular tbh

100% agree. Hugely limiting choice and paying such a high cost for something that might save you 15-30 minute a month makes no sense to me either, but each to their own.

[Basil Brush]

Shabaza said:

MY 24 Polestar 2 (aka current gen) should do 300 comfortably.

More so the long range single motor.
(WLTP is 400+ miles, but ignore that, I've been getting 300-350 miles)

They can also use tesla superchargers in their own app and at discounted rate compared to public.

But honestly speaking, Id probably try get a Model S 100D if it was a used purchase

You could get a new PS2 with full warranty for just over your budget.

https://www.polestar.com/uk/preconfigured-cars/pol...