Westminster Council disincentivise EVs from tomorrow

Westminster Council disincentivise EVs from tomorrow

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runnerbean 14

Original Poster:

282 posts

141 months

Sunday 7th April
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I concede this is a first world problem, and one that was probably inevitable, but from Monday Westminster Council are withdrawing a valuable incentive for EV parking.

By chance, tomorrow I am making one of my (now relatively rare) trips in to London and have the choice of taking my daughter's car, which has a resident's parking permit, and my EV. Both are parked outside my house (hers because she is away). For the past five or six years I have only driven an EV to and in London, doing my bit to keep emissions off the streets, but tomorrow I'll take the diesel.

Something similarly daft will be happening in Oxford from September, penalising private car use so those that can will buy large diesel pick-ups (which are not classed as private cars) instead. I often wonder if local politicians grasp the law of unintended consequences - I think the clear answer is NO.

ChrisCh86

962 posts

51 months

Sunday 7th April
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Wouldn't it be easier to take the train?

There's a lot of EVs in Westminster now, due to private hire vehicles / taxis swapping over so not surprising that things are changing.

More details here:
https://www.westminster.gov.uk/parking/changes-how...

darreni

3,999 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th April
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What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?

Griffith4ever

4,797 posts

42 months

Sunday 7th April
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runnerbean 14 said:
For the past five or six years I have only driven an EV to and in London, doing my bit to keep emissions off the streets, but tomorrow I'll take the diesel.

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Were you "doing your bit" to get free parking by any chance? and why are you still not "doing your bit for keeping London streets emission free" any more "just" because you have to pay for parking?

Seems some pretty shakey moral high ground you are teetering on there.

runnerbean 14

Original Poster:

282 posts

141 months

Sunday 7th April
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Predictable insta-judgments above; AFAIK it's still largely a free country (at least in respect of transport choices) and it's quite difficult taking e.g. furniture on the train. EV parking in Westminster has never been free but it has been heavily subsidised, that's why I referred to it as an incentive.

Earthdweller

14,414 posts

133 months

Sunday 7th April
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darreni said:
What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?
Park as long as you like but only pay for 10 minutes

Griffith4ever

4,797 posts

42 months

Sunday 7th April
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runnerbean 14 said:
Predictable insta-judgments above; AFAIK it's still largely a free country (at least in respect of transport choices) and it's quite difficult taking e.g. furniture on the train. EV parking in Westminster has never been free but it has been heavily subsidised, that's why I referred to it as an incentive.
Not really being judgemental, just don't make the "eco" claim when the truth is you liked cheap parking.

Mojooo

13,026 posts

187 months

Sunday 7th April
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ChrisCh86 said:
Wouldn't it be easier to take the train?

There's a lot of EVs in Westminster now, due to private hire vehicles / taxis swapping over so not surprising that things are changing.
I bet 50p he could go to London twice in a car for the same cost a train costs.

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 7th April
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Earthdweller said:
darreni said:
What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?
Park as long as you like but only pay for 10 minutes
Oh no!

valiant

11,374 posts

167 months

Sunday 7th April
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Earthdweller said:
darreni said:
What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?
Park as long as you like but only pay for 10 minutes
With the amount of EVs in London now that is in no way sustainable.

It would have only been a matter of time.

911Spanker

1,888 posts

23 months

Sunday 7th April
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valiant said:
Earthdweller said:
darreni said:
What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?
Park as long as you like but only pay for 10 minutes
With the amount of EVs in London now that is in no way sustainable.

It would have only been a matter of time.
Exactly. Tax the things like any other car.



DanL

6,439 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th April
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runnerbean 14 said:
Something similarly daft will be happening in Oxford from September, penalising private car use so those that can will buy large diesel pick-ups (which are not classed as private cars) instead. I often wonder if local politicians grasp the law of unintended consequences - I think the clear answer is NO.
I doubt people will buy a pick up to avoid whatever Oxford is doing…

Ken_Code

1,566 posts

9 months

Sunday 7th April
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Charging the same for EVs as for other cars isn’t disincentivising them. A disincentive would be charging them more than other cars pay.

SteveKTMer

1,079 posts

38 months

Sunday 7th April
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Earthdweller said:
darreni said:
What is the incentive that’s being withdrawn?
Park as long as you like but only pay for 10 minutes
Ah so the OP is a benefits scrounger…. wink

Giantt

611 posts

43 months

Sunday 7th April
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ChrisCh86 said:
Wouldn't it be easier to take the train?

There's a lot of EVs in Westminster now, due to private hire vehicles / taxis swapping over so not surprising that things are changing.

More details here:
https://www.westminster.gov.uk/parking/changes-how...
Depends where the op comes from,strike tomorrow, probably easy day for me commute by bike, probably half rest of staff off

Gordon Hill

1,316 posts

22 months

Sunday 7th April
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Hint of entitlement expecting these bribes er I mean incentives to last undefinitely.

Whats in a name

148 posts

103 months

Sunday 7th April
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ChrisCh86 said:
Wouldn't it be easier to take the train?

There's a lot of EVs in Westminster now, due to private hire vehicles / taxis swapping over so not surprising that things are changing.

More details here:
https://www.westminster.gov.uk/parking/changes-how...
I live less than 40 minutes by train from the centre of London but it’s cheaper for me to drive in, pay for the fuel, pay the ULEZ charge and pay to park (pre booked) than it is to get the train. It’s crazy how much the train costs these days.


ScoobyChris

1,812 posts

209 months

Monday 8th April
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Whats in a name said:
I live less than 40 minutes by train from the centre of London but it’s cheaper for me to drive in, pay for the fuel, pay the ULEZ charge and pay to park (pre booked) than it is to get the train. It’s crazy how much the train costs these days.
I guess it varies. My village is on the outskirts of London and with the Elizabeth line, costs me significantly less than driving in, even off peak.

Chris

croyde

23,955 posts

237 months

Monday 8th April
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I live 8 miles from work commuting from Kingston to Acton.

Over £11 by train and takes 1.5 hours
A fiver in the car takes an hour
£2 on the motorbike takes 20 mins

Sometimes I walk.

Train costs are crazy.

Nomme de Plum

6,183 posts

23 months

Monday 8th April
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croyde said:
I live 8 miles from work commuting from Kingston to Acton.

Over £11 by train and takes 1.5 hours
A fiver in the car takes an hour
£2 on the motorbike takes 20 mins

Sometimes I walk.

Train costs are crazy.
Is £11 season ticket cost?

That's as easy cycle ride or combination bus, walk. When i lived and worked in London I did not have a car there. Aren't London residents still entitled to free travel when over 50. I know my friend who lives in Twickenham made great use of it to commute into Waterloo.