SS EV claiming mileage

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foggy

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1,172 posts

289 months

Sunday 17th March
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Keeping it short and sweet, I’m doing a few longer trips for work recently in my salary sacrifice EV which has meant public charging at 60 to 90p/kWh. The HMRC EV company car mileage claim rate of 10p/mile rate isn’t touching the charging costs let alone going some way to reimbursing me for the mileage used out of my deal (which I may well have to increase mileage on to cover the extra business journeys).

My employer are interested in ways of reimbursing me for the car use - how do other businesses approach covering your costs please?

JD

2,903 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th March
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foggy said:
Keeping it short and sweet, I’m doing a few longer trips for work recently in my salary sacrifice EV which has meant public charging at 60 to 90p/kWh. The HMRC EV company car mileage claim rate of 10p/mile rate isn’t touching the charging costs let alone going some way to reimbursing me for the mileage used out of my deal (which I may well have to increase mileage on to cover the extra business journeys).

My employer are interested in ways of reimbursing me for the car use - how do other businesses approach covering your costs please?
Your company can choose to pay you whatever mileage rate they want.

Are you aware you can claim the tax back on the difference between what your company pay you, and 45p?

That's 14p/mile for higher rate.

plfrench

2,942 posts

275 months

Sunday 17th March
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Not sure if it is allowed for SS, but with company cars we just put in a receipt for the rapid charge (by receipt, I mean a screenshot from my banking app showing the charge cost). They just pay the full amount then.


blank

3,579 posts

195 months

Sunday 17th March
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JD said:
foggy said:
Keeping it short and sweet, I’m doing a few longer trips for work recently in my salary sacrifice EV which has meant public charging at 60 to 90p/kWh. The HMRC EV company car mileage claim rate of 10p/mile rate isn’t touching the charging costs let alone going some way to reimbursing me for the mileage used out of my deal (which I may well have to increase mileage on to cover the extra business journeys).

My employer are interested in ways of reimbursing me for the car use - how do other businesses approach covering your costs please?
Your company can choose to pay you whatever mileage rate they want.

Are you aware you can claim the tax back on the difference between what your company pay you, and 45p?

That's 14p/mile for higher rate.
Won't work for SS unfortunately as it is technically a company car.


Best way is actual receipts as noted above.

The company can, of course, pay you anything they want as long as the tax/NI is paid!

Tractor Driver

141 posts

37 months

Sunday 17th March
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Our company takes the view that the 10p/mile HMRC rate balances out overall. Charge overnight on a decent EV rate and you’re looking at around 3p/mile cost, so you’re making ~7p/mile.

Definitely losing per mile when using rapid chargers, but they think it balances out overall…

Later this year I’ll move onto the new SS scheme and my plan is to get something with decent range (>350 mile quoted/WLTP) with a view to maximising home charging and minimising expensive fast and rapid charging on the road.

sixor8

6,615 posts

275 months

Sunday 17th March
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My sister has had a Kia e-Niro on SS for over 3 years. She uses it for business journeys regularly and her firm pay her 45p per mile, the same as those who work there with petrol or diesel cars. smile It offsets having to use public chargers occasionally but she has a charger at home too.

Evanivitch

22,076 posts

129 months

Sunday 17th March
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sixor8 said:
My sister has had a Kia e-Niro on SS for over 3 years. She uses it for business journeys regularly and her firm pay her 45p per mile, the same as those who work there with petrol or diesel cars. smile It offsets having to use public chargers occasionally but she has a charger at home too.
If you're on salary sacrifice and you're getting HMRC approved private-vehicle mileage for business use then you're going to be paying tax on that.

NomadicTurbo

877 posts

81 months

Sunday 17th March
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Tractor Driver said:
Our company takes the view that the 10p/mile HMRC rate balances out overall. Charge overnight on a decent EV rate and you’re looking at around 3p/mile cost, so you’re making ~7p/mile.
Same with our company too, 10p a mile for EV on SS scheme.

30p for petrol or diesel though.

sixor8

6,615 posts

275 months

Sunday 17th March
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Evanivitch said:
sixor8 said:
My sister has had a Kia e-Niro on SS for over 3 years. She uses it for business journeys regularly and her firm pay her 45p per mile, the same as those who work there with petrol or diesel cars. smile It offsets having to use public chargers occasionally but she has a charger at home too.
If you're on salary sacrifice and you're getting HMRC approved private-vehicle mileage for business use then you're going to be paying tax on that.
I'll be asking her tomorrow, I'm not sure if she knows that. scratchchin

riskyj

423 posts

87 months

Sunday 17th March
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I think we’re 9p per mile, so last time I had to make a trip to a far away office I just rented an ICE.

PistonTim

561 posts

146 months

Monday 18th March
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Our company uses HMRC rates as per company car too as others have mentioned.

N88

1,306 posts

186 months

Monday 18th March
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It’s 9p / mile rather than 10p isn’t it?

Anyway, that’s the HMRC advisory fuel rate.

So if your calculations show a higher cost per mile then your employer can pay you the higher rate without it being a taxable benefit.

oop north

1,615 posts

135 months

Tuesday 19th March
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It’s an odd one because if the company pays for all the charging there is no benefit in kind at all. But payment above the HMRC rates with no evidence means the excess is taxable. Get the evidence that actual cost is more than the HMRC rate and that’s ok. Getting the employer that that is another matter

Evanivitch

22,076 posts

129 months

Tuesday 19th March
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oop north said:
It’s an odd one because if the company pays for all the charging there is no benefit in kind at all. But payment above the HMRC rates with no evidence means the excess is taxable. Get the evidence that actual cost is more than the HMRC rate and that’s ok. Getting the employer that that is another matter
Yeah getting a receipt on a contactless rapid is a nightmare!

plfrench

2,942 posts

275 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Evanivitch said:
oop north said:
It’s an odd one because if the company pays for all the charging there is no benefit in kind at all. But payment above the HMRC rates with no evidence means the excess is taxable. Get the evidence that actual cost is more than the HMRC rate and that’s ok. Getting the employer that that is another matter
Yeah getting a receipt on a contactless rapid is a nightmare!
I’ve been ok claiming it with a phone screenshot from my Amex app - our expenses guys are pretty fussy, so if it gets past them, then probably ok biggrin it was only fairly recently this issue of being out of pocket for rapid charging was recognised and the ex’s policy was updated.