Charging cable - extra cost option nonsense
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You do not own the fuel hose at the petrol station and many home chargers are tethered ie they have a charging cable attached.
What odds is it manufactures can either include the cable which may or may not be necessary for an individual and increase the cost of the vehicle accordingly or offer it has an option?
My charge cables are unused.
What odds is it manufactures can either include the cable which may or may not be necessary for an individual and increase the cost of the vehicle accordingly or offer it has an option?
My charge cables are unused.
Tractor Driver said:
How do manufacturers have the cheek to charge extra for the charging cable on an EV?
Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
A little moan always helps. Makes you feel better, doesn't it? Sadly, it's of no use to anybody else. It's like verbal masturbation.Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
What you could do is buy a car where the cost of the cable is hidden in the overall sum you pay. That'll teach 'em and your problem is solved!
Tractor Driver said:
How do manufacturers have the cheek to charge extra for the charging cable on an EV?
I don’t have a problem with it. Once you’ve bought one, you’ve pretty much got one for life.Even then, I reckon I could get away without having one. Charge port at home is tether, and I only ever use rapids when out and about.
Tractor Driver said:
How do manufacturers have the cheek to charge extra for the charging cable on an EV?
Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
I'm not sure that you have thought this through.Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
They can either include the cable as standard, and charge everyone £200, even when someone doesn't want / need the cable, or they can just charge those that do actually want / need the cable.
Mandat said:
They can either include the cable as standard, and charge everyone £200, even when someone doesn't want / need the cable, or they can just charge those that do actually want / need the cable.
They could charge £200 but the reality is it would probably cost the manufacturer buttons so could be included for next-to-nothing extra. Extras / options on cars are always a complete rip off (or massive profit opportunity for the manufacturer, if you like).Ok. So I seem to be very much in the minority here. Fair enough!
Just strikes me as mean to roll out a £50k+ (…could well be over £100k+) car and then charge extra for a cable. Comments noted about tethered home chargers and the fastest public chargers also being tethered. Perhaps I’m in the minority in wanting to sometimes hook up to a 7kW free charger in a car park if I’m there for 10 hours and needing a cable to do so.
Just strikes me as mean to roll out a £50k+ (…could well be over £100k+) car and then charge extra for a cable. Comments noted about tethered home chargers and the fastest public chargers also being tethered. Perhaps I’m in the minority in wanting to sometimes hook up to a 7kW free charger in a car park if I’m there for 10 hours and needing a cable to do so.
Tractor Driver said:
Just strikes me as mean to roll out a £50k+ (…could well be over £100k+) car and then charge extra for a cable.
Don't buy that car! Just buy another one with a cable (that you pay for) and be done with it.Or here's another idea: tell the salesperson you'll only buy the £50k+ or well over £100k+ EV if it comes with a cable.
I feel either option is much better than just moaning about the supposed meanness of some car manufacturers to people who can't help you with that anyway. Don't you agree?
Tractor Driver said:
Ok. So I seem to be very much in the minority here. Fair enough!
Just strikes me as mean to roll out a £50k+ (…could well be over £100k+) car and then charge extra for a cable. Comments noted about tethered home chargers and the fastest public chargers also being tethered. Perhaps I’m in the minority in wanting to sometimes hook up to a 7kW free charger in a car park if I’m there for 10 hours and needing a cable to do so.
Have you never considered bartering for some extras? Just strikes me as mean to roll out a £50k+ (…could well be over £100k+) car and then charge extra for a cable. Comments noted about tethered home chargers and the fastest public chargers also being tethered. Perhaps I’m in the minority in wanting to sometimes hook up to a 7kW free charger in a car park if I’m there for 10 hours and needing a cable to do so.
Personally i do not need a plethora of charging leads. Do you?
BTW i have a number of cordless devices from one manufacturer . They all come with a charger which is a total waste and unnecessary clutter.
Edited by Nomme de Plum on Sunday 26th November 19:39
Boxster5 said:
NDNDNDND said:
Blimey...
...and the EV crowd wonders why nobody likes them.
Yes that’s what I’m thinking…….....and the EV crowd wonders why nobody likes them.
What the salesman should do is: bump the price up to include the cable, then say ‘I have included a cable, but if you already have one, I can knock off £50 (or a quarter what the on cost to you would be)”
Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 26th November 20:07
Tractor Driver said:
How do manufacturers have the cheek to charge extra for the charging cable on an EV?
Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
What EV is it? I haven’t seen an EV or PHEV that didn’t come with a Type 2 cable as standard. Extra for the 3 pin cable seems fair if that’s what you mean. Surely that’s akin to putting a key code on the fuel filler flap for an ICE vehicle and charging £200 extra if you want the code to unlock it.
Daylight robbery!
What car are you buying? Our i3 we got new in 2017 came with an OUC charger but no type 2 cable, which we just bought one. Our new e 208 came with a nice type 2 cable (in a lovely case) but no OUC one, so are buying one. My brother’s id 4 GTX, which he has now had for 2 years, just came with an OUC I seem to remember.
I doubt any ev will come with no cable at all, I think a type 2 seems to be standard these days for most cars as most people don’t tend to charge from a 3 pin plug socket these days (we have a tethered 10 metre Chargepoint charger at home which is always used for about 95% of our charging.
I doubt any ev will come with no cable at all, I think a type 2 seems to be standard these days for most cars as most people don’t tend to charge from a 3 pin plug socket these days (we have a tethered 10 metre Chargepoint charger at home which is always used for about 95% of our charging.
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