EVs and caravans/towing
Discussion
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/blog/product-and-out...
Obvious really that towing a caravan with an EV will impact range, but if 100 miles is the comfortable limit, this could really impact caravans.
Obvious really that towing a caravan with an EV will impact range, but if 100 miles is the comfortable limit, this could really impact caravans.
NO MORE CARAVANS Slow.Patrol said:
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/blog/product-and-out...
Obvious really that towing a caravan with an EV will impact range, but if 100 miles is the comfortable limit, this could really impact caravans.
Obvious really that towing a caravan with an EV will impact range, but if 100 miles is the comfortable limit, this could really impact caravans.
The Article said:
Technology is forging ahead, and although the infrastructure isn’t quite there yet, campsites with fast chargers and electric vehicles that can tow a caravan 100 miles (or more) are reassuring. What’s more, EV towing manners could make for very relaxing trips indeed.
The speed limit towing a caravan on a motorway is 60mph, probably sensible to set the cruise for a true 56mph to fit in with HGV traffic. At which point ~110 miles is ~2 hours driving. Which if you've got a car full of family, probably is about the point you'd want to stop for a break anyway.And EVs are only going to get better and fast chargers more widespread. Looking back on how far electric motoring has come in the last 11 years, it seems not to be a huge issue for people to plan to continue caravanning in future.
samoht said:
The speed limit towing a caravan on a motorway is 60mph, probably sensible to set the cruise for a true 56mph to fit in with HGV traffic. At which point ~110 miles is ~2 hours driving. Which if you've got a car full of family, probably is about the point you'd want to stop for a break anyway.
And EVs are only going to get better and fast chargers more widespread. Looking back on how far electric motoring has come in the last 11 years, it seems not to be a huge issue for people to plan to continue caravanning in future.
The other issue not to be forgotten is that currently you'd have to drop hitch to be able to charge at most rapids...And EVs are only going to get better and fast chargers more widespread. Looking back on how far electric motoring has come in the last 11 years, it seems not to be a huge issue for people to plan to continue caravanning in future.
On the Facebook group for Polestar owners the general chat is under 100 miles to a full charge.
Remote charging seems to be the biggest problem, nowhere is set up for charging while a caravan is connected, it all seems to be a massive pain in the rear.
Remote charging seems to be the biggest problem, nowhere is set up for charging while a caravan is connected, it all seems to be a massive pain in the rear.
Edited by TheRainMaker on Thursday 9th November 20:46
C.A.R. said:
Thank god, hopefully that will help put people off of the whole perverse obsession with dragging a fiberglass box around our tiny country just to have a miserable holiday. I'd ban caravans from the roads tomorrow if I was in power!
How do you know they have a miserable holiday ? Caravaners are already used to major sacrifice along every part of their holiday - they'll be OK with stopping every couple of hours for a rapid charge won't they?
This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
TheRainMaker said:
On the Facebook group for Polestar owners the general chat is under 100 miles to a full charge.
Remote charging seems to be the biggest problem, nowhere is set up for charging while a caravan is connected, it all seems to be a massive pain in the rear.
Gridserve forecourts (not the motorway services) and some Fastned sites are setup for this.Remote charging seems to be the biggest problem, nowhere is set up for charging while a caravan is connected, it all seems to be a massive pain in the rear.
Edited by TheRainMaker on Thursday 9th November 20:46
C.A.R. said:
Thank god, hopefully that will help put people off of the whole perverse obsession with dragging a fiberglass box around our tiny country just to have a miserable holiday. I'd ban caravans from the roads tomorrow if I was in power!
I had some absolutely tremendous holidays in a caravan when i was young. My parents carried on caravanning up until Dad was 80. At least 2 trips a year down to the Costa Del Sol and then back through French vineyards to top up with wine. He never dropped below the maximum permissable speed limit and could reverse park the whole caboudle mm perfect.
Fortunately policy is not based on an individuals selfish desires.
Nomme de Plum said:
C.A.R. said:
Thank god, hopefully that will help put people off of the whole perverse obsession with dragging a fiberglass box around our tiny country just to have a miserable holiday. I'd ban caravans from the roads tomorrow if I was in power!
I had some absolutely tremendous holidays in a caravan when i was young. My parents carried on caravanning up until Dad was 80. At least 2 trips a year down to the Costa Del Sol and then back through French vineyards to top up with wine. He never dropped below the maximum permissable speed limit and could reverse park the whole caboudle mm perfect.
Fortunately policy is not based on an individuals selfish desires.
1) You ended up on the Costa Del Sol - a transgression only partially made up for by sensibly stocking up at vineyards on the way back up
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
3) You could have flown/train, stayed in a hotel or apartment and had more days in the sunny bits
I too have warm fuzzy memories of holidays when I was young, but objectively speaking they were pretty terrible and the memories would have been even better if we had all gone somewhere sunny with a warm sea instead of inland Norfolk.. Unless it was on the costa Del Sol, of course.
TheDeuce said:
Caravaners are already used to major sacrifice along every part of their holiday - they'll be OK with stopping every couple of hours for a rapid charge won't they?
This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
You haven't got a clue!This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
Not everyone wants to be in a hotel where everything is provided at whatever level of luxury one can afford.
Personally i can't abide those all inclusive packages with buffet slop food.
My RV had a bed 2m x 1.8m wide and some caravans are very similar internally.
TheDeuce said:
There are problems here:
1) You ended up on the Costa Del Sol - a transgression only partially made up for by sensibly stocking up at vineyards on the way back up
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
3) You could have flown/train, stayed in a hotel or apartment and had more days in the sunny bits
I too have warm fuzzy memories of holidays when I was young, but objectively speaking they were pretty terrible and the memories would have been even better if we had all gone somewhere sunny with a warm sea instead of inland Norfolk.. Unless it was on the costa Del Sol, of course.
It's about the journey as well as the destination. Whether in Devon, Cornwall or the district of France and places like Rouen and Carcassonne or the NE coast of Spain. 1) You ended up on the Costa Del Sol - a transgression only partially made up for by sensibly stocking up at vineyards on the way back up
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
3) You could have flown/train, stayed in a hotel or apartment and had more days in the sunny bits
I too have warm fuzzy memories of holidays when I was young, but objectively speaking they were pretty terrible and the memories would have been even better if we had all gone somewhere sunny with a warm sea instead of inland Norfolk.. Unless it was on the costa Del Sol, of course.
The best bit about caravanning is one is not obliged to stay at some huge campsite and remote secluded destinations can be visited. Few English which is a real bonus.
I assume you desire all commercial vehicles banned from roads as the caravan can be towed at a greater speed.
Nomme de Plum said:
TheDeuce said:
Caravaners are already used to major sacrifice along every part of their holiday - they'll be OK with stopping every couple of hours for a rapid charge won't they?
This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
You haven't got a clue!This is a group of people who leave their homes twice a year for the privilege of sleeping in a small box, on a tiny bed, with their head inches away from a chemical toilet that they can dream about emptying the following morning.
They have already looked at the easy option - get on a plane/train and go and stay in a comfortable hotel with self emptying toilets. They have decided that's too simple, and pleasant for them. These weird folk will love having another excuse to stop en-route, it's another activity to flesh out a terrible holiday
Not everyone wants to be in a hotel where everything is provided at whatever level of luxury one can afford.
Personally i can't abide those all inclusive packages with buffet slop food.
My RV had a bed 2m x 1.8m wide and some caravans are very similar internally.
I too can't abide all inclusive hotels, they're for idiots that haven't got the gumption to find a far better eatery outside of the hotel/resort - to actually eat something local from an independent business. But there are various types of hotel, apartments and villa's available that don't come with an all you can eat euro-merican international buffet. Crucially however, they do all come with a bed and bog that you don't have to carry with you whilst you travel. Slowly.
Lets face facts - if anywhere is worth going to, at least anywhere you can reach in a caravan... There will already be accommodation available at that place. You don't need to carry a hotel room around with you.
Caravans also come with kitchenettes, which is yet another problem. There are only two ways it can go, either you don't use a kitchenette which makes it a waste of space, money and weight or... you do use it which is guaranteed to be a wasted meal opportunity. It's arguably worse to sit in a white box and eat dinner than it is to go to the afore-mentioned nasty buffet.
TheDeuce said:
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
You might want to check your facts on that. In France the limit is the same. For what it's worth, I love our caravan. Six berth, only two of us, full sized bed, central heating, TV, satellite, full sized fridge, full sized cooker. Absolute bliss and tranquillity.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
You might want to check your facts on that. In France the limit is the same.
For what it's worth, I love our caravan. Six berth, only two of us, full sized bed, central heating, TV, satellite, full sized fridge, full sized cooker. Absolute bliss and tranquillity.
until it rains/ hails/ gets windy For what it's worth, I love our caravan. Six berth, only two of us, full sized bed, central heating, TV, satellite, full sized fridge, full sized cooker. Absolute bliss and tranquillity.
Nomme de Plum said:
TheDeuce said:
There are problems here:
1) You ended up on the Costa Del Sol - a transgression only partially made up for by sensibly stocking up at vineyards on the way back up
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
3) You could have flown/train, stayed in a hotel or apartment and had more days in the sunny bits
I too have warm fuzzy memories of holidays when I was young, but objectively speaking they were pretty terrible and the memories would have been even better if we had all gone somewhere sunny with a warm sea instead of inland Norfolk.. Unless it was on the costa Del Sol, of course.
It's about the journey as well as the destination. Whether in Devon, Cornwall or the district of France and places like Rouen and Carcassonne or the NE coast of Spain. 1) You ended up on the Costa Del Sol - a transgression only partially made up for by sensibly stocking up at vineyards on the way back up
2) The maximum permissible speed for towing a caravan is less than that of the cars behind you
3) You could have flown/train, stayed in a hotel or apartment and had more days in the sunny bits
I too have warm fuzzy memories of holidays when I was young, but objectively speaking they were pretty terrible and the memories would have been even better if we had all gone somewhere sunny with a warm sea instead of inland Norfolk.. Unless it was on the costa Del Sol, of course.
The best bit about caravanning is one is not obliged to stay at some huge campsite and remote secluded destinations can be visited. Few English which is a real bonus.
I assume you desire all commercial vehicles banned from roads as the caravan can be towed at a greater speed.
Commercial vehicles are a pain too but they tend to stay on the major roads where I can easily pass them, not bumble around the back roads where a lot of the interesting places to go tend to be.
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