taycan optional onboard chargers

taycan optional onboard chargers

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Insurancejon

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251 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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how important is the 150 kw dc charger option on these?

I've 22kw charger at work , so want that facility, but do wakefield to galloway a few times a year, will the extra capacity of 150kw DC be a tangible benefit?

theboss

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224 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Pretty sure the 150kW option is only applicable to 400V DC chargers so you get the faster speeds on 800V chargers (like ionity) regardless

I've had an iX with 22kW the the last month and it's proved itself useful on a few occasions already, not just by having 22kW at home but I use a few public AC chargers from time to time and its very handy being able to get a useful charge in a few hours if you're doing some shopping or leisure activity.

A few weeks ago I got a free 3-100% AC charge outside a French hotel without having to wait half a day for it.

I thought I would quite happily forgo it (although it's standard on the M60 in any case) but now I've got it I wouldn't want to go back. Still a fairly niche use case but if you have 22kW at work you'll benefit from it.

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Thursday 12th October 2023
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theboss said:
Pretty sure the 150kW option is only applicable to 400V DC chargers so you get the faster speeds on 800V chargers (like ionity) regardless
Exactly this. Older DC chargers (think the 50kW BP Pulse ones with 3 connectors) could not produce over about 500V DC, so cars like the Taycan need to "boost" that up to ~800V to charge the battery. This option increases the power of the "booster" (DC-DC converter) from 50kW to 150kW.

Newer chargers will go up to 800, 900, or even 1,000V so this isn't an issue.

You're very unlikely to find a charger capable of 150kW but only 500V, and the worst case scenario if you did is that the Taycan would charge at 50kW.

Most chargers limited to 500V will be limited to 50kW / 125A as well.


You're far more likely to find a 150kW charger that is current limited to 2-300A so is only 150kW on vehicles with 750V+ batteries. Good for Taycans and eTron GTs, bad for regular eTrons, Teslas, and Polestars.


It is a pretty cheap option for Porsche though!

Murph7355

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261 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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As above, 150kW is only any use on 400V chargers (I think like the Tesla ones). But is cheap if buying new.

22kW only any use if you have three phase power at home or wherever you charge it (where it will charge at 3x the std rate). IIRC, it's expensive.

I don't have either on mine, and can't really think of a use case at present where I'd need them. At home (charger being installed next week!), it'll charge from 0-100% if needed in about 11hrs. On the road, I use 350kW chargers anyway (not done many long distances yet, but not had a problem with access yet).

Insurancejon

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Friday 13th October 2023
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Thanks guys,

So basically need a 22kw (as I have at work) and 150kw is a nice if it’s already on.

Basically I’m looking at used or stock new, so picking the right car.

Appreciate the input

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Friday 13th October 2023
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Murph7355 said:
As above, 150kW is only any use on 400V chargers (I think like the Tesla ones). But is cheap if buying new.
Forgot about Tesla chargers. I think everything except the latest V4 are limited to 500V DC so if you're expecting to use the Tesla network then the 150kW DC option would be useful.

Insurancejon

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Monday 16th October 2023
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I dont think porsche ended up with access

Murph7355

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261 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Insurancejon said:
I dont think porsche ended up with access
It doesn't seem to be brand specific:

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/support/non-tesla-supe...

Though there are enough options out there to make it a little moot.